Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By only1beeno Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:28 pm
imma be real, im new to da game... but i made a couple of beats and they sounds coo. but i wanna start organizing my sounds. and honestly i dont kno wut da real difference is between kicks, snares, hi hats, etc. can somebody drop some knowledge on me and let me the difference from all da sounds and names for em. like how does each one sounds... cuz when i make beats i jus use wut i think sounds good. let me kno yall. thanks.
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By digital_bastard Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:37 pm
Sounds are generally named after the type of _physical_ drum (from a real drum kit) they sound like.
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By Smoove03 Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:09 pm
goto www.google.com and search for free drum sounds, drum kits, or drum samples.

download some sounds. thats the fastest way to learn. you gotta hear what they sound like.
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By Archetype_J Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:15 pm
kick- bump bump........ ba dump bump bump....

snare - ..............crack!...............................crack!

hi hat - tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic

By only1beeno Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:50 pm
coo... thanks yall... imma try alla dat.

By only1beeno Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:25 pm
fo real though... y even say some sh*t like dat... if u ain't got nothin to say to help or say somethin coo y say somethin to make somebody feel bad or feel stupid even. sorry i aint an expert like u. but everyone gotta start from somewhere.[/quote]
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By Smoove03 Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:48 am
beeno what do you use to make your music?
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By binger0 Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:25 am
oh the 3 drums that every hip hop beat is made out of is the kick, snare, and hat. the rides and crashes add to the beat and the toms i really never use but can be used. u hear toms more in rock
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By cyrus Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:26 am
yeah.

most snares are placed at the 2 and 4.....the hihats are placed every 8th note. and the kicks hit any where inbetween the snares using 16th note timing.....they never hit the same time the snares do.

DO you know what a bar is? and how timing can divide it up? this will help you understand everything i said above.

a bar is a section of music....in hiphop we loop bars...most hiphop songs are 2 bar loops. i.e. the same 2 "bar" section loops over and over. look at a "bar" like a ruler. You can divide that ruler up into many parts giving you certain marks spaced out evenly, like a ruler, each inch is spaced out an inch apart, that inch is then divided into halfs, quarter, 8ths, 16ths.......

NOW lets check out a bar:
say you divide it into 32 parts.....this is what a bar is divided into....32 parts....if you place a note on one of those parts, its a 32nd note.

you can divide it by 16, thus 16ths, and 8=8ths, 4=quarter note, 2=half note, 1=whole note. if you look at the numbers on the upper right of the menu screen on the mpc; those numbers specify the location on the bar....i.e. sort of like on a ruler, you have 1 inch, 2 inch, 3 inch....or 1.5 inch, or 3.5 inch.

on a bar, even if you know you have to use 16ths for the kick, you still need to specify where on the bar they are going....same for kicks, etc.

So when i say "snares on 2 and 4" i mean, that when those numbers say 1:2:00, that is 2, and 1:4:00 that is four. the 2 is located 2 quarter notes from the beginning of the measure, and the 4 is spaced 4 from the beginning. or if you think about it using 8th notes.....the 2 is 4 8th notes from the beginning, and the 4 is 8 8th notes. GET IT?

NOT sure if this helped but i remember tryin to figure this shit out! peace.
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By binger0 Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:40 am
good lookin. yeah music is based on time signatures. Common time, 4/4 is what most of todays music is made on. its like cy said. if u listen to the click on ur mpc the 1,2,3,4 that ='s 1 bar. 4 of thouse, bars, 1 musical phrase i would call it, thats not really what its called though, but that would = 4/4 time

Bar
Has come to have the same meaning as measure. There are usually 2,3 or 4 beats in a bar of music.

Beat
(1) A steady and continuous pulse in the music, within which rhythms are formed.
(2) A single pulse of music. Beats are usually arranged into groups of 2, 3, or 4 to form a measure (or bar). The first beat in a bar is usually more pronounced than the others.

Beats and Bars
A method of counting both the beats and bars at the same time in order to keep track of how many bars an amalgamation contains. In 4/4 time, counting in beats and bars could be 1, 2, 3, 4, 2, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, 3, 4, 4, 2, 3, 4, etc.

Beat Value
The number of beats on each step of a dance figure.

Canter Timing/Rhythm
A rhythm used with music written in 3/4 time (Waltz and Viennese Waltz), where no weight change is made on the second step resulting in only two weight changes danced over three beats of music.

Downbeat
(1) In music, the first beat of the bar as indicated by the downward stroke of the conductor’s arm.
(2) Refers to whichever beats are pronounced in a bar of music. (i.e. counts 1 & 3 in 4/4 time, or all four beats).

Measure
The space between two bar lines in music in which there are a specific number of beats that repeat throughout the music. Typically there will be 2,3, or 4 beats in a measure. Being able to hear how many beats there are in a measure will help to determine the kind of dance it is.

Musicality
Used in connection with describing whether a dancer hears, feels, and expresses the music in their body while dancing and whether they stay on the correct beat of the music.

Phrase
A specific number of measures that make up a complete “thought” of music. It is similar to a sentence, having a beginning and a clear end. There are small phrases (as few as two measures or eight counts) as well as longer phrases of 8, 16, or 32 measures.

Phrasing
(1) Choreographing a dance to fit the phrases of the music.
(2) The sequence of dance patterns put together to match the characteristics of a musical sequence.

Quick
A term used to count steps usually having one beat. A slow is double the value of a quick.

Rhythm
The regular occurrence of accented beats that give character to music.

Slow
A term used in counting steps usually having two beats. A quick is half the value of a slow.

Syncopation
A variation of the regular occurrence of accented beats.

Tempo
The speed of the music measured in measures (bars) or beats per minute.

Time or Time Signature
The number of beats in each measure of music. I.E. 4/4 time equals four beats per measure. The upper number tells us the number of beats in a measure, and the lower number tells us the kind of musical note (a quarter beat) that gets one beat.

Timing
Refers to the commonly used counts or words associated with counting a particular dance.

Upbeat
(1) In music, the last beat of the bar as indicated by the downward stroke of the conductor’s arm.
(2) Refers to whichever beats follow a downbeat in a bar of music. (i.e. counts 2 & 4 in 4/4 time, or the “&” counts between the beats as in 1&2&3&4&).

By only1beeno Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:37 pm
good lookin yall... cats like gordongecko23 think they jus too good or somethin. lol. honestly... i think fo a beginniner im aiite, lol... well das wut people seem to tell me. haha... but yea... i was jus thinkin dat if i hava mentor or somebody teachin me everythang... i'd be pretty damn good. cuz im tryin to learn all dis on my own... then i found dis board... and i see peoples here is willin to help... so i thank yall for all dis info...

beeno what do you use to make your music?


rite now... i use an MPC1000, a couple of Gemini PT-2000 turntables witha Shure M44-7 cartridge, some grandpa lookin Numark turntable mixer dat i got fo free, lol... kinda thinkkin bout gettin a new mixer. i gotta apple g5 dat at da moment run garageband... cheesy a$$ program. I'm finna getta digi002 rack wit pro tools in a couple weeks. not sure if i should jus wait n save for the digi002 with da console mixer. wut yall think i should do? and i also gotta PC dat i use to run soundforge so i could jus edit some wav files for the MPC. it's coo cuz it gotta compactflash reader built in. but yea... im still learnin da ropes of the MPC...

if any of yall willin to help me out wit all dis... let me kno yall... its appreciated. thanks.
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By digital_bastard Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:51 pm
If I was just starting out right now, I'd spend more time really getting to know the gear I already have and taking it easy with the purchases. No one piece of equipment will make you a better beatmaker, but knowing what you have inside out will.

By only1beeno Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:03 pm
I actually wanna use pro tools to sequence and edit sounds. i kno da basics of da MPC... jus not to good wit sequencing it...