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By Moogens Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:58 am
I really don’t like this discussion. We are advances users of the MPC1000 who have a serious suggestion for an update, a feature we miss a lot when we use this - in other regards - very great machine. Some others who apparently don’t miss this feature call us (more-or-less indirectly) for “low-budget whiners”.

MPC3000 you know that Dahkter, chupacabra, actuel, djadonis206 (was agreeing in an early post), jigginz, jksuperstar, TerroristProphecy , Elmacaco, thass (and myself) all are some of the more serious users (as youself) of the MPC and the Forum. Serious users should NOT get downgrading answers.

If we think there is a missing feature (a feature that is not even especially advanced) that would make the machine a lot better, its something AKAI should listen to. They made a decision when remowing a feature that apparently was present in all the earlier MPC’s. If AKAI aren’t aware that quite a lot of the serious users regard this as a bad decision, then how should they make other good decisions in the future?

All kind of companies tend to put more and more trust in what the users say, because the users know the products from intense professional use. That is also why the users should be a great resource for AKAI. But if downgrading answers destroy a serious feature discussion, the suggestions will get drowned by the contradictory comments.

We miss this feature in the MPC1000 and we want AKAI to know it, that’s all.

Maybe this is not the most effective way of telling AKAI. That is why I have this suggestion for the Forum in general:
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=17482
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By loo2004ep Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:14 pm
people who bltch about missing features are whiners cuz they new what the machine did be4 they bought it ,and theres a purpose for the missin features,however the piece of shlt cant even play a sequence witout dropping samples so akai can go fu<k themselves

By Dahkter Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:12 am
El Macaco said:

I know you can change the velocity of a sample within a track, but what if the track is made up of multisampled notes? A bit of a pain in the ****.


Exactly. I have the same very basic question (no whining, please, rest assured) - Why omit a basic OS function that has been on all MPCs for the past 15 years? Why remove the ability of an MPC to adjust the overall volume of one track (midi or internal samples)?

IMO - Whether you record five notes on the piano, or seven internal drum samples on the pads into the MPC, you should be able to make the volumes louder and softer. An intelligent, basic and prior MPC method of playing back the material is raising or lowering the volume by part, or by track, or by take, whatever you want to call it.

IMO - When people play music, they use multiple notes or sounds. That's why midi controllers have 25 to 88 keys. That's why every MPC (so far) has 16 pads that can trigger 16 different notes. So you can play multiple notes. Normally you can turn the track(part/take) volume up and down on an MPC. On an MPC60/3000/2000/2000xl/4000, you could do this. Yet, the only way you can do this on an MPC1000 is to go into step edit mode and adjust each individual, single note. One at a time.


MPC3000's comment on this situation:
"I get the feeling that people are just upset that they do not get ALL the features of the MPC2000XL for $400 less. This is simply not going to be the case. In order to create an affordable machine, so things are just not there. This is not saying they will not show up, because a lot of what eventually happens to the MPC will depend on sales. If people complain a lot about the MPC, sales go down and Akai can no longer support the product. Personally, I would like to see the machine sell well. More sales mean more features. Plain and simple. People can be for this goal, or they can be against it"


Great use of intimidation and false economics.
Great way to address customers.
Your logic is: complaints up => sales down => no new features.

Well, guess what happens when you tell your customers that they didn’t spend enough money to be heard or listened to? SALES GO DOWN. Guess what prospective buyers of this unit will do when they see that their purchase will result in their comments and observations having no value? SALES WILL GO DOWN MORE.

MPC3000, you are surprised that people (meaning myself and any other people who have viewed or contributed to this thread) are still spending so much time on a “non-issue”? Several people have voiced their opinion that a basic function found on other MPCs that should be on this product. That you should be able to globally adjust the volume up or down for all notes on a track, samples or midi, quickly and easily. This seems like a fair request and a valid issue to me.

MPC3000, you also state that you believe that AKAI customers that have purchased an MPC1000 expect more product for less money? How about this - write the number down. How much will it cost to code the veloctiy %? If it's a question of money, sell an OS upgrade for an additional cost. Version 2. IMHO, this is much more effective than ignoring and offending your customers because they haven't dropped enough coin into the companies net sales figures. Even better, as a sign of goodwill to their customers, AKAI can simply release the updated OS free of charge.

Finally, this "People can be for this goal, or they can be against it" is wrong. How about "People can either buy AKAI's products now and in the future, or never buy AKAI's products again". If this thread is an example of how AKAI sees their customers, you know the answer.

By elmacaco Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:03 pm
there should be another way besides step edit, go to edit note data or whatever it is called, and select the track you want and the pads you want to effect and knock the velocity down or up in one go. Still a work around, but better than step edit!!
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By jfunk Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:01 am
Dahkter:
Exactly. I have the same very basic question (no whining, please, rest assured) - Why omit a basic OS function that has been on all MPCs for the past 15 years? Why remove the ability of an MPC to adjust the overall volume of one track (midi or internal samples)?

As long as the 2000xl's are still selling, why would akai want to make a machine that does everything the 2000 does and more for cheaper? Obviously, its not very cool to leave out such an important function as track volume, but I dare say thats their reasoning behind it. And hey, I aint supporting Akai by any means.... I think it sucks too, but business is business. As for the sample drop-outs, that's just plain unacceptable, no matter how cheap the price is.