By manji
Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:20 pm
namely the Motif ES and the Fantom XR?
The reason I ask is I have a mpc4000, and an mpc5000. I was planning on selling the 5000 to get one, if not both, of the Motif and Fantom. But I havent gotten any good offers, and am about to go through my 2nd auction on ebay with out selling it, so I got to thinking.
I really like the 5000, though in terms of depth to manipulate samples, the 4000 obviously stands alone (atleast with what Ive used, which include numerous Roland SP samplers, an mpc60, 2000, 1000, 500, 4000 and 5000, an s950, an s5000 and an ESI32). I actually like the pads better than the 4000s, and, though im sure this will get me shot, for sequences concerning notes, I like the 5000s better (the note repeat is easier to use, and having realtime control over quantization is easily the thing i miss most going from the 5000 to the 4000). I know it doesnt touch q-link step sequencing or the modulation matrix (which im just learning about and seems effing amazing), but it just feels better to me. Writing hip hop ish drum parts is easy on either one, but really complicated DnB or minimal stuff has been super hard on the 4000, and is a breeze on the 5000 (though Im willing to admit this is probably cuz Ive had the 5000 for almost 15 months now, the 4000 for 2 weeks).
However, where my master plan fell short with the 5000 was I just never put any multisamples in it, it was too time consuming. It took forever, and Id rather be banging on pads than doing tedious crap. Thats where the 4000 really shines, to me, is Aksys. Its not as memerable as when I figured out how to speed up certain bars in a sequence or other aha moments with the 4000, but it does such a good job doing the tedious stuff fast, that its amazing. As such, in the last week alone, ive put 5 or 6 piano multisample programs and like 9 upright bass multisample programs in there, and 5-ish waveform programs, just raw saws and sines and stuff. And I really, really like it.
Now, Ive never used or even seen a motif or fantom xr, and guitar center is like 4 hours from here (yay small towns, our music store is run by cowboy wanna be a-holes), so Im flying blind here. It just seems with a lot of work, the combo I have now (mpc4000 and mpc5000 and an emx1) is so unlimited as to be scary. I plan on getting a bcr2000 and trying sysex with the 4000 no matter what I do, so editing is easier. If I do that and take the time to sample friends synths and I have reason and a couple refills, am I actually missing anything with the 4000 i would otherwise be getting in a motif and or fantomxr, besides those SPECIFIC sounds?
The reason I ask is I have a mpc4000, and an mpc5000. I was planning on selling the 5000 to get one, if not both, of the Motif and Fantom. But I havent gotten any good offers, and am about to go through my 2nd auction on ebay with out selling it, so I got to thinking.
I really like the 5000, though in terms of depth to manipulate samples, the 4000 obviously stands alone (atleast with what Ive used, which include numerous Roland SP samplers, an mpc60, 2000, 1000, 500, 4000 and 5000, an s950, an s5000 and an ESI32). I actually like the pads better than the 4000s, and, though im sure this will get me shot, for sequences concerning notes, I like the 5000s better (the note repeat is easier to use, and having realtime control over quantization is easily the thing i miss most going from the 5000 to the 4000). I know it doesnt touch q-link step sequencing or the modulation matrix (which im just learning about and seems effing amazing), but it just feels better to me. Writing hip hop ish drum parts is easy on either one, but really complicated DnB or minimal stuff has been super hard on the 4000, and is a breeze on the 5000 (though Im willing to admit this is probably cuz Ive had the 5000 for almost 15 months now, the 4000 for 2 weeks).
However, where my master plan fell short with the 5000 was I just never put any multisamples in it, it was too time consuming. It took forever, and Id rather be banging on pads than doing tedious crap. Thats where the 4000 really shines, to me, is Aksys. Its not as memerable as when I figured out how to speed up certain bars in a sequence or other aha moments with the 4000, but it does such a good job doing the tedious stuff fast, that its amazing. As such, in the last week alone, ive put 5 or 6 piano multisample programs and like 9 upright bass multisample programs in there, and 5-ish waveform programs, just raw saws and sines and stuff. And I really, really like it.
Now, Ive never used or even seen a motif or fantom xr, and guitar center is like 4 hours from here (yay small towns, our music store is run by cowboy wanna be a-holes), so Im flying blind here. It just seems with a lot of work, the combo I have now (mpc4000 and mpc5000 and an emx1) is so unlimited as to be scary. I plan on getting a bcr2000 and trying sysex with the 4000 no matter what I do, so editing is easier. If I do that and take the time to sample friends synths and I have reason and a couple refills, am I actually missing anything with the 4000 i would otherwise be getting in a motif and or fantomxr, besides those SPECIFIC sounds?
