Mpc 2000 Vs Maschine

Hi all.
Im new to the whole sampleling scene and i currently have the choice of getting an mpc 2000 or a Maschine. Could someone tell me the pros and cons of Choosing one over the other? Bearing in mind that this is the mpc 2000 and not the 2000 XL.
Thanks all!

man, this topic has been done.

maschine pros: It is in your computer so you can link it with your fl studio and your ableton. It is certainly the better choice for the casual beat maker. It has more features then the 2000, and it can essentially do more.

MPC pros: It is standalone, cant get messed up from watching porn, it has great sound, it is standalone, it does beat making the old school way and will let you see how things used to be done... it can be used as a controller for you DAW with a midi interface. The build quality is better then the maschine controller.

Maschine cons: it is in your computer and requires it to work... it isn't stand alone... the pad controller some believe to be cheap however some think it is great. That may be a con... it sucks balls for controlling external gear if you have plenty of that.... you probably would be looking at a 60 or a 4k anyways.

mpc cons: 32 megs of ram is the max you have for sampling, the screen might get lines and then you're out a few hundred to fix it, that mpc isn't new so replacing parts may have to happen. The 2000 classic has no IDE/ATAPI which means installing a card reader will be expensive and a total pain. floppy disks are shit. You have to boot from the boot disk unless you get the f-rom expansion which is rare as hell and more expensive then the mpc.


verdict: I would prefer the mpc, however you very well could probably do more with the maschine... definately go with the maschine if you have no other music gear... and dont even look at the mpc if you are a casual beat maker.

mr_debauch, I would have to take issue with one of your statements about installing a card reader drive into the MPC2000 Classic - it certainly is not "a total pain"; in fact, it's actually very easy with our install kit. You just have to open the case, unscrew the floppy drive, screw in the card reader drive, run one cable through the inside of the case, connect one cable on the outside and that is it. You don't have to cut any wires or solder anything. Takes about 10 minutes once the case is opened.

scsiforsamplers.com wrote:mr_debauch, I would have to take issue with one of your statements about installing a card reader drive into the MPC2000 Classic - it certainly is not "a total pain"; in fact, it's actually very easy with our install kit. You just have to open the case, unscrew the floppy drive, screw in the card reader drive, run one cable through the inside of the case, connect one cable on the outside and that is it. You don't have to cut any wires or solder anything. Takes about 10 minutes once the case is opened.

you know what I mean... they are harder to find then the IDE ones and they cost more, plus you gotta do that scsi thing to bring the connector inside....

okay for people like you and me that aint a big deal but some people cant even install ram properly.

Sure, I do know what you mean but you'd be surprised how many people have installed the MPC2000 internal SCSI kit without asking me a single question. We have developed the kit and instructions to a point where it is almost fool-proof.

JD is right
the card reader I bought from him was super easy to install, and very competitively priced.

I would say take maschine if your new to all this stuff. The 2000 has its limitations in the sample chopping department and no track mute....it actually has a ton of limitations compared to something as new and advanced as maschine. I'm a 2kxl guy myself and i would just recommend not buying either of your 2 choices and get one. But if that's not the case id say maschine for sure. The mpc 2000 definatly has the "cool" factor due to being a classic piece of gear. But at the same time Im not gonna downgrade to it or a 60 just to be cool and have that vintage gear. The 60's sound is amazing but its very limited as well for options and sample time. Most producers used to work with 2 to 4 seconds of sample time(I dont remember for sure) with that machine and an akai s950 sampler...In todays day and age those machines are not only slow but time consuming....something to think about anyway...

i concur, i only use my mpc to sequence software a sampler.