For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
By coolderb Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:35 pm
I feel you AES. I'm doing the same thing. I thought I had the best of both worlds by having the hardware-feel of Maschine combined with the power and flexibility of software. But the missing ingredient was the ability to have a self-contained device that can be used when you want or need to get away from the computer or have problems with the computer,etc. With my recently acquired MPC 1000 I can use it stand-alone or as a powerful midi controller with Reason and BPM! To make matters even sweeter, I got it for only a couple hundred more than the MPD32. I even got it to recognize the full capacity of a 340gb hard drive that is on sale at Best Buy for $90US. The MPC combined with the recent BPM update and Reason 5 is truly a nice setup that is also fun,flexible and has a tight workflow.
By manji Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:33 pm
Ill never get rid of my mpcs. I have the 4k and the 5k. Ive had the 60, which I dearly miss (it was my first box, and it was just too much fr me), the 1000, the 2500 and the 500. I wouldnt mind having another 500, if I could find it for under 200. Obviously a fairly underpowered machine, but few things got me out of musical ruts like the 500 and a coffeeshop or park or even a parking lot somewhere. Ive also got a dps24 (oddly enough, im not an akai slut, just keep finding really good deals on the stuff), and an emx, and i want to start adding hardware synths here and there.

Ive got a computer and some programs on it, reason with a few refills. Mostly my computer is my fx box for my dps and a sound source for sampling. I totally get the incredible potential of computers, in all reality they are the ONLY all in one box ever made. But just like with art (i paint and all that crap)....sitting infront of a computer is just uninspiring for me. i wish it was, I wouldt have sunk all this money into this hardware and probably could have gotten laid more, but in the end, its just what works for you. Im really happy with my setup, and besides selling my xboard keyboard, i dont really see myself getting rid of anything, just adding.
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By mr_debauch Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:53 pm
W. Steele wrote:Got rid of my 2500 for Maschine . Now I'm waiting on moving my equipment into a bigger space early next year and I'm gonna cop a 60 and another SP :D . Even though Maschine has those "modes" we all know it's not the real deal .



Yeah man, that was one thing I wanted to know about except with empty sea around the forum you couldn't find out anything related to the maschine without him polluting the place.

Have you done any real comparisons between the two emulations and their respective hardware counterparts? what do the emulations entail? Like... for the 60, does it just try and emulate some sort of swing or does it try and emulate the 12bit snd/wav sound? or both? and what would your verdict be?
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By W. Steele Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:36 pm
mr_debauch wrote:Yeah man, that was one thing I wanted to know about except with empty sea around the forum you couldn't find out anything related to the maschine without him polluting the place.

Have you done any real comparisons between the two emulations and their respective hardware counterparts? what do the emulations entail? Like... for the 60, does it just try and emulate some sort of swing or does it try and emulate the 12bit snd/wav sound? or both? and what would your verdict be?


All it emulates is the sound and the 60's emulator doesn't do a good job imo . The SP emulator is just about dead on . I've owned 3 SP's so I know the sound . It doesn't have the beefy-ness (which I think is impossible to obtain w/ software) but the bit reduction / grainy-ness is damn near perfect .

The Maschine itself has a dedicated swing knob that works pretty well but it's not as good as a MPC's . I've also only had it a couple months and haven't gotten that deep into it . I'm also waiting on software upgrades cause there's a lot of sh!t it's missing from the standpoint of a dude who's been using MPC's for 14 years . It is a fun tool to have though .
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By mr_debauch Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:39 am
W. Steele wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:Yeah man, that was one thing I wanted to know about except with empty sea around the forum you couldn't find out anything related to the maschine without him polluting the place.

Have you done any real comparisons between the two emulations and their respective hardware counterparts? what do the emulations entail? Like... for the 60, does it just try and emulate some sort of swing or does it try and emulate the 12bit snd/wav sound? or both? and what would your verdict be?


All it emulates is the sound and the 60's emulator doesn't do a good job imo . The SP emulator is just about dead on . I've owned 3 SP's so I know the sound . It doesn't have the beefy-ness (which I think is impossible to obtain w/ software) but the bit reduction / grainy-ness is damn near perfect .

The Maschine itself has a dedicated swing knob that works pretty well but it's not as good as a MPC's . I've also only had it a couple months and haven't gotten that deep into it . I'm also waiting on software upgrades cause there's a lot of sh!t it's missing from the standpoint of a dude who's been using MPC's for 14 years . It is a fun tool to have though .



Yeah I was kind of curious about if it tried to emulate sound, how good it could be... I mean sure we have digital to analog conversion and what not happening on the real hardware so I wouldn't have expected them to get that... but those two features had me curious to know how good it was. I mean I dont personally see myself grabbing a maschine however that doesn't mean I am not curious about what is going on with it.
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By galegatron Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:30 pm
i got rid of my orange 2kxxl to finance a surf trip :D

but i am keeping my mpc-60. i use it mainly for ideas, jam session and stress relief. sitting in front of my mpc60 makes me feel like i am meditating...gotta love that machine...

but for serious production or remixes i use ableton suite 8...
By MusicMutt Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:12 pm
Hardware all the way, in my opinion. Being able to have turn knobs, hit switches and buttons, and move things around with my hands is much more personalized then using a mouse and starring at a computer screen to turn digital knobs and faders and worrying about cpu usage and updates and all that stuff. I'm not knocking it, it works very well for some people. I just see it as much more of a learning curve then an experience.........figuring equipment out by hand and not mouse.

I'll always keep my MPC, no matter what evolves into whatever, it is a crucial piece of equipment as well as a gateway into all the other pieces of hardware I purchased after failing to use software to my advantage.
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By JamesJeffery Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:48 pm
I had an MPD 32 ... love id. I got an MPC 2500 but had to sell it because I was stuck for cash. Couple of months later I got the 1000, and shortly after the 2500 (again).

Although I don't use it all that often (working .. family .. stress) I would never get rid of it. I am getting rid of the 1000 but as a super dupa package for an SP1200 (see my ad).

Nothing compares to the MPC. I've had the MPD and Maschine and both are cheap pieces of plastic.
By golfzerosafari Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:30 pm
The maschine and other software still got a way to go before they catch up with the sound

of hardware. Some are getting there. Its to the point where youre weighing sound quality

vs efficiency. I dont think people realize all the hype and marketing of maschine's features

can already be done.
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By mr_debauch Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:46 pm
poundaproblem wrote:Havent "gotten rid" of the MPC but it has been in a case for about a month and a half. Tired of broken tact switches. Been using reason.



man, sounds like that mpc got rid of you... :roll:




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By MCL Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:18 pm
Not had an MPC for about a year now - Finally gave my 2000 classic away.

Since i got Maschine and Ableton it was sitting gathering dust