How do u use your samples

I can make some tight beats with looping a sample, adding drums, messing around with the loop for variation, but I was wondering what people look for in samples for sequencing like people under the stairs, premo, p-rock and so on. I can make beats some what like that in reason
but I am having a tuff time with my mpc. what records do you guys sample from, what slices do you use, how do you sequence your slices, and so on. Any tips would be usefull

thanks
Brian

My first suggestion would be to dig for yourself. When I shop for records, stuff jus be starin at me. Sometimes its the cover art, maybe a song title, curiousity, or more work from an artist I was feelin my last visit. Different records appeal to different people.

>"........I was wondering what people look for in samples for sequencing like people under the stairs, premo, p-rock and so on."

Try checkin out the liner notes to some of their albums.

>"what records do you guys sample from, what slices do you use, how do you sequence your slices, and so on."

I personally don't make a habit of tellin people the source of my samples (on some "i'll never reveal the wu-tang secret" type shit). But if you're lookin' to impersonate the people you mentioned, try checkin out film scores by Bill Conti, Bob james' old stuff, James Brown, you know the usual suspects.

Tip: Homework. Footwork. Network. I think if you do those things on your own you'll have a better chance at becoming a "Pete Rock" or a "Premo" (people that made their own style work for them and others wanna follow.)

some people have diggin rules, like they only buy records that were released on captial before 1974 and shit.

i just dig buy stuff and take chances.
maybe someone has mentioned to check out a certain jazz artist or label. maybe i feel like buying the oldest 5 records i can find that day.
maybe i am on a weird tip (like i was yesterday) and only buy stuff that looks to have all dialog. i picked up 2 get-a-long-gang (yes the cartoon from the 80s) episodes on wax and a something out on schoolastic records called the haunted house and other ghost stories for kids. why did I buy these? i dunno they were 3 for a dollar and I bet i can find some way to use them sometime. the best record I have ever bought was because I really liked the cover and i could tell it was jazz and old. turns out to be the most sample-able ish ever. trumpet solos for 2 minutes straight with no one else playing. bass intros to songs the same way. just find somewhere that you can buy records for less than 3 bucks and 45s at less than 50c each and have some fun.

I apperciate the replies. I do alot of digging, but I seem to just
take my slices and rearrange them to remix the song some what.
I've noticed how alot of tight producers like many here. change ther samples up a whole lot. I guess I just need to practice,practice,practice.
i was jsut looking for some extra insight on the subject. I've browsed
this site many times but am always seeking more knowlege. not
tyring to invade on peoples secrets but what i would like is if someone
could emial me some sounds and a song that they made with those sounds
just so I could try to imitate it to get a good idea of how its done. I cant seem to download the sounds from Pass the beat. But if no one wil
thats cool too. thanks for any and all help.
brian

[quote="BBasement"]I seem to just
take my slices and rearrange them to remix the song some what.


I just started with my mpc about 3 months ago (so my opinion =nothing), but i started doing a similar thing to what your describing, where it just becomes a remix, insteead of a new track, and i now try to limit myself to 1 sample per song (never using mopre than 1 sample from 1 song on a track of "mine"), and that forces you to create a new sound

just a thought
.

Aint a bad tip. I think I'll try working that way for awhile. Have you come up with some dope tracks.

i think bbasement what he is trying to ask is the same question i am trying to get answered, how do you slice your samples so perfertly where they don't sound like slices, just one loop, is there some step editing technique, or things like that to manipulate the sample besides tuning it up or down?

aint nothing to it but to do it. you got the right idea, aint no secrets, the mpc got more than enough to slice samples and lace em back up. no problemo. sit down and do that shit.

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hahaha.,..thats good tutor.

Napoe wrote:how do you slice your samples so perfertly where they don't sound like slices, just one loop,

Thats kinda what I am aiming for. I hear some hip-hop like louis logic
and his producer has some beats that sound almost like he was just looping a 4 bar break from a record (flawless).

yea h i am aiming for that too i guess practice,practice,practice
i got mad vinyl but i just don't really know how to chop em up that good

Click down below to hear my first mpc-track its a crew track with my mans Jethro-skizzile-kaps-dusk-p, we were bent as f@%k when we recorded it so you may be able to tell. I know this is the wrong post
but please let me know what you think.
p.s. it is made with reason samples.

nice stuff homie.

Hi B,

This is something I did a many years ago, when I first got into sampling.

Take your favourite P.U.T.S. sample or whatever and read the inlay(provided you bought the L.P., that's a whole other story don't get me started). Check out what samples were used, go find the record(s) and sample them. Take the exact same sample and then listen to the P.U.T.S. track again. You instantly hear every thing they've done to the sample. This is particularly interesting if you're into El-Ps music(he really fu*ks them up).
You can only learn to push things forward if you understand that which has gone before. So please do this as a learning tool to better your own style and not a way rob other peoples ideas.

Rule number one: never sample a sample or sample somthing that has been sampled before.(Goes without saying to any true hip hop fan but you'd be surprised!)

Personally, I have developed a very strict etiquette over the past 10 years I have been sampling. I now generally sample single notes, in fact I would never sample anything with more than one instrument in it. People may find this bit exteme but it ensures your work will be entirely original. It's all too easy to "Fat Boy Slim" eight bars of a track you like, compress the hell out of it, throw some drums on there and get Spike Jones to direct the video but why would you do that? What have you actually done? The answer is you've made money. I'm going off on a complete tangent, I appologise. Back to sampling notes. It's great because you can here the most awful piano loop you've ever heard but think the sound of the instrument is nice. Chop the notes to bits, repitch etc. and hence create a new instrument. Then do the same for your drums, lead, bass(repithing bass notes is great as it's alot easier to get convincing results), etc. etc.

Basically my advice is listen to the sound of the records you are sampling not necessarily the melody, chord prog, etc. It's a whole new world when you do this. I once sampled a sax part from a "Sax Moods" record. It was a sax instrumentral of Whitney Heuston's "I will always love you". I chopped the sax to bits and got an incredibly dark sounding lead sax for a track I was working on.(I make dark hip-hop instrumentals)

I'm sure you see what I'm getting at.

Another suggestion I would make is buy a relatively decent mic and minidisc player. You'd be amazed at the sounds the world makes. I have got many sounds from cupboards slaming(added to a snare can be nice) room ambiences can really help in the mood of a track, the list goes on.

I hope some of these ideas have expanded your sampling base and I have been of some use. I haven't had a chance to check you're tune but I will.

Peace

Dos

Great Ideas there, sounds like you have some experience behind you. I will definetly take to heart your tips. Ive been sampling for less then a year now, and like you said I dont want to just be another puff daddy redoing 'Juicy fruit' not changing anything in the song but the lyrics and droping fruit off the name and collecting money for (no dis the biggie)
So thanks for your support much apperciated, and have a listen to my jam.