5000 TIP (easy integration to a daw)

Use the hard disk recorder to bring your song into a DAW. You can bring your separate or bussed drums in and whatever else sound you please. Record your tracks to harddisk , save them to hard disk than transfer over to your computer. The song will stay exactly on time. You will still retain the swing and punch that MPC's are so emulated for...

golfzerosafari wrote:Use the hard disk recorder to bring your song into a DAW. You can bring your separate or bussed drums in and whatever else sound you please. Record your tracks to harddisk , save them to hard disk than transfer over to your computer. The song will start exactly on time. You will still retain the swing and punch that MPC's are so emulated for...

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This is also super, super easy with adat (so you could technically track it to anything with an adat in really easy). My adat pci card was easily the best 12 bucks I ever spent.

Just assign the outs in the HD MIX window.

What i do is that i make the whole beat on my MPC, then i put all the sequences togheter in song mode, make one sequence of all the sequences in song mode, then i track out each track one by one for how long the whole beat is. Works good for me.

The adat thing is just a time saver, really. Aside from the purely digital transfer, so its cleaner (which i look at as a drawback. when did we get so scared of a little grit?), its the same process described above, just 8 at a time. But I mentioned the hard disk recorder thing because I do live instrumentation, too, which until recently i did entirely on the mpc5000. So if you wanted to bounce down some guitars, drums and your friend farting on a microphone, i figured id just mention its still possible.

manji wrote:The adat thing is just a time saver, really. Aside from the purely digital transfer, so its cleaner (which i look at as a drawback. when did we get so scared of a little grit?), its the same process described above, just 8 at a time. But I mentioned the hard disk recorder thing because I do live instrumentation, too, which until recently i did entirely on the mpc5000. So if you wanted to bounce down some guitars, drums and your friend farting on a microphone, i figured id just mention its still possible.

I prefer the hd recorder because you have to nudge the seperate tracks once there in the daw.

why doesnt the song start on time if u just record into your daw, having snycd both machines?

The song does start on time with sync.. I don't use sync due to the possibility of error for 1. For 2, I sell my music with the song as one wav that's complete, And all tracks on separate wavs. This gives me more selling points. The buyers house enginer can put his touch on it, do mutes, and butcher it up if he wants to. People want flexabity. The mpc can do it, and why not have a master copy of each track ? From the source of its inception ,retaining complete swing,start ,loop points and bounce. Plus.. your Going to save each song as a file right? You want to do it track by track in daw , fine..in the mpc , ok.. point is it has to be done anyways. The point of making music is having fun. Having fun is having an efficent and proficient workflow.

gertie wrote:why doesnt the song start on time if u just record into your daw, having snycd both machines?

First, it will start on time. To be more clear. If you record into a daw. Your SUBJECT to latency. Your computer power determines your latency. The more tracks youre recording at the same time takes more comp power.

I find it useless to get a feel on the MPC, record the tracks into a daw and have to nudge things back or forward to where they were.


Also theres actually quite a few engineers and producers who just two track into a daw.
Pros and cons....

didnt think of latency....

I just record everything into the daw and never had to nudge anything - ive got 3ms latency so it aint an issue to me

gertie wrote:didnt think of latency....

I just record everything into the daw and never had to nudge anything - ive got 3ms latency so it aint an issue to me

I give the feel of the song alot of importance. Often times when I track into a daw it loses that feel and i have to fiddle with it some more. Im not going to go into some programming techniques I use. But I use the shift and swing timing to my advantage.

i allso assumed that recording each track by itself to HD and then import to daw is the best way. by mistake i recorded my kick line twice and imported it twice to diffrent trackes in cubase and then found out that the two tracks have slightly difrent timing.
how did that happened? may be i did somthing wrong?
someone can please tell me what is the proper proces for tracking track by track to HD?

Thnx ahead

yonibregman wrote:i allso assumed that recording each track by itself to HD and then import to daw is the best way. by mistake i recorded my kick line twice and imported it twice to diffrent trackes in cubase and then found out that the two tracks have slightly difrent timing.
how did that happened? may be i did somthing wrong?
someone can please tell me what is the proper proces for tracking track by track to HD?

Thnx ahead

Post the files up.

Im at work now i will post the wave files later.
but i will describe the way i tracked it
may be i miseed somthing

i went from my seq to song mode then to trk mix then i muted all the tracks but the one i want to save to file.
i went to record then pressed window, chose save to file 24 bit. and do it.
thats the way i need to do it?

Golfzerosafari, here are the two lines of the same kick loop i recorded as file to HD one after one and exported.

http://www.fileflyer.com/view/xqcK4AO

thnk you very much for your help!

Yoni B