How many of you guys use stand alone recorders?

hell yer brother!! hardware smokes the living sh|t out of computers.
reel to reel and cassette are somthing a computer cannont replicate also.
a guy with only a computer and a soundcard will never have a clue about production.

Fiending for an akai dps24

séance wrote:Fiending for an akai dps24

me too

skeezee wrote:I just sold my Roland VS 2400 and bought a Korg D3200. I was contemplating getting an iMac and interface, but I've always used stand alone multitrack recorders and the times I've used a computer, I really haven't given it a fair go and wasn't pleased with the results.

Who's still rocking a mult irack recorder?

as soon as I've recovered from my latest spending spreeeee., the next thing is definitely some reel to reel tape machine(s),

i had a random 8 track hard disk recorder a while back can't remember what it was.

I use digi c/ 24 but, logic pro and macbook pro make life super easy.. each song is different..sometimes the c/24 is needed for a mainstream sound..and logic pro/mac for that grit, street sound.. dunno i use the tools the job requires. If i dont have it, i get it. Even if itz just for a current project.

ghosty wrote:I use digi c/ 24 but, logic pro and macbook pro make life super easy.. each song is different..sometimes the c/24 is needed for a mainstream sound..and logic pro/mac for that grit, street sound.. dunno i use the tools the job requires. If i dont have it, i get it. Even if itz just for a current project.

FOS

SARGA wrote:hell yer brother!! hardware smokes the living sh|t out of computers.
reel to reel and cassette are somthing a computer cannont replicate also.
a guy with only a computer and a soundcard will never have a clue about production.

really? those reel to reels r coo, but unless you kno the WHOLE process its not touchin anything u can do on a computer.

Lord Toranaga wrote:

ghosty wrote:I use digi c/ 24 but, logic pro and macbook pro make life super easy.. each song is different..sometimes the c/24 is needed for a mainstream sound..and logic pro/mac for that grit, street sound.. dunno i use the tools the job requires. If i dont have it, i get it. Even if itz just for a current project.

FOS

Ooh no.. another hater.. fos?. Lol. Haha. Broke ass.. you trick your money, i buy gear. Is it that hard to own a c/24 ? You prolly bought 4k rims, jordans, and all the "fly" hip hop gear.. scrub. I dont care bout that..i want fly gear.. now be gone flea..

SARGA wrote:a guy with only a computer and a soundcard will never have a clue about production.

well explain why nobody uses that shit anymore then and why companies dont even make 1/4" tape anymore which was the most common of r2r tapes?

cause while tape sounded different then digital stuff.... it is a pain in the ass to use, tapes degrade over time, they dont really make tape anymore, you cant reuse them over and over... they aren't as economical and the tape machines require quite a bit of maintenance.

I own two reel to reel machines (one akai machine and one nicer teac machine) and while I love them... they simply aren't that efficient to use regularly. I suspect that people here on the forum dont even use tape as often as they claim to. (or as often as they pretend to) especially those with 8 track reel to reels where each reel of tape costs at least $75 bucks... I just dont see that shit happening on the day to day of people making beats.

-if the sound i wont is stoupes beats from 93. would i go buy 2010 gear? no.

-companys do make tape still

-if somone comes on here and says "how do i get that pro sound" there talking about pop music on the radio.

-if your hiphop, dont produce rock and techno. etcetc.....

-the best beats ever made were made with a drum machine, tt and mixer a 4track tape multitracker and analog mixer. (muggs,rza,stoupe,premo,mobbdeep etc)
so why would i go by a mpc5000 and $5000 worth of rack gear and instruments if thats the sound i was looking for... you cant turn a penis into a real vagina.. even if you get 30k surgery.. it will not work and feel the same as a real girls one. if the stlye and sound your looking for involves old gear get the old gear dont get a 2010 digital version and try get close to it..

im only talking about hiphop.. i been wirtting for 12 years.. i allready know the sound i wont when i make beats.. i only been producing for a year.. and im exaclty were i need to be at allready. dont expect a raw artist to jump on a "pro sound" beat.. your not on the same page.. or even in the same book.. i know this also goes for progressive rock.. were r2rs are commonly still used for full albums.

new gen of muscians are not keen to learn as much or have there own style or add on to a genre... go buy cds read the full booklet covers see what studio it was recorded at.. who produced it.. go search for tools that were used read your genre's magizes.. hit up live shows... theres always one sound you like the best... and thats yours to take and addon to. anyway this is a multitrack topic.. go get the one you need for YOUR beats not what someone else needs for theres... if you dont know what to use you dont need one yet.

and

PUT IN TEN YEARS BEFORE HITTING RECORD WHATEVER YOUR GENRE IS.

also watch your contradictions cuz.

"explain why no one uses that shit anymore"
then
"i have two r2rs"
then
"people on here have them"


have fun replying... but im out for a couple of weeks i wont be cheaking this at all. you might be able to up your street cred with other users by one upping me though.

I prefer using standalone equipment so I use my vs2400cd multitrack for recording.
purchased cubase about a year ago, but use it mainly to transfer finished mixes from the vs24 via its built in fiberoptic connection.

I can't really think of anything that vs24 cant do when it comes to multitrack recording and editing. U can even install vst's via an optional expansion.

Damn guys! It is all personal opinion.

Lord, I will say one thing. A lot more ppl use tape than you may have met or heard of. Just like some people still make dub plates when they could go with a Serrato. There are a good # of producers that will still swear by tape. Even if they then master w/ Protools or something. And people still make tape. And you can find it cheap if you look. A thrift store down my street has boxes and boxes of tape, all sealed. I just bop down there and buy a few reels when I want. Though, it must be said, that I personally record mostly to my DPS, I am just starting to get into the reel to reel.

I plan on recording a bunch of drum hits at diff levels and sampling them into my 2KXL. Love the analog 'Splatter' on tape driven really hard.

And for the record, I mean non offense to anyone with this post. Golly, some of you guys act like dogs that have been beat. Not everything on the interwebs is to be taken personally.

SARGA wrote:also watch your contradictions cuz.

"explain why no one uses that shit anymore"
then
"i have two r2rs"
then
"people on here have them"


have fun replying... but im out for a couple of weeks i wont be cheaking this at all. you might be able to up your street cred with other users by one upping me though.

I am not saying they dont sound good... but I am saying to your face that you dont record every song on 8 track tape that costs 75 bucks a reel... and no, sorry buddy... but read my post again... I didn't say no company makes tapes anymore, I said THEY DONT REALLY MAKE THEM.... it aint standard anymore. I have a few brand new ones still, but I bought the last one from one of our music stores and found one scotch brand one at a second hand store oddly enough.... the same day I grabbed a stack of records.

why not read my entire post to get my point, do you know how to properly clean your R2R machines and do you do it regularly? well that shit is vital if you use those machines as your main recorders. It just aint convenient or cost effective though when you got unlimited record time using hard drive recorders.

And people only own an interface and a computer dont know about production? Dude, you only been producing for a year... what gives you the authority to even think that?