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By Prah_860_ Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:24 pm
mr_debauch wrote:
j rhodes wrote:
poundaproblem wrote::lol: :lol:


I used to make beats on 4 15"s lololol



DAMN DUDE... i bet that shit had you playing around with bass notes more than anything else! :lol:


****, you wind up with music that sounds muddy on everyone else's stereo...


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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By mr_debauch Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:00 pm
poundaproblem wrote:I said make beats not mix.......



yeah yeah haha, before I had monitors all I had was PA gear and so I actually mixed one track using the PA system and only a set of cheap headphones. man it's tough doing that... but the song turned out not as bad as I thought. It sounded great on the PA though!
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By Mike Boogie Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:07 pm
mr_debauch wrote:
poundaproblem wrote:I said make beats not mix.......



yeah yeah haha, before I had monitors all I had was PA gear and so I actually mixed one track using the PA system and only a set of cheap headphones. man it's tough doing that... but the song turned out not as bad as I thought. It sounded great on the PA though!


Story of my life...
Yet I still have the nerve to attempt to re-master final mixes on my 15's for club play, and the sh!t sounds MASSIVE!!!
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By mr_debauch Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:49 pm
Mike Boogie wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:
poundaproblem wrote:I said make beats not mix.......



yeah yeah haha, before I had monitors all I had was PA gear and so I actually mixed one track using the PA system and only a set of cheap headphones. man it's tough doing that... but the song turned out not as bad as I thought. It sounded great on the PA though!


Story of my life...
Yet I still have the nerve to attempt to re-master final mixes on my 15's for club play, and the sh!t sounds MASSIVE!!!



the upside... nobody can steal your track or pirate it when it ONLY sounds good on your system! :lol:
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By puff froggy frog Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:45 am
don't you all think that larger speakers would/should be better for monitoring? I mean, if the music is intended for use on a PA then you need to check it on a PA.
monitors are generally built with a higher standard of sound quality, as they don't have to be built to withstand loads of abuse, but not all sound systems are cheap shite from china.
doesn't have to be too expensive either. the old jbl cones sound great with some phat analog electronics running them.
theres a whole segment of the hifi nutters scene dedicated to jbl + 2" comp type things. minimal processing, so very little phase f*kups.

i struggle to see how an 8" cone in a monitor (for example), thats already being expected to run up to the tweeter frequencies, can really be expected to go down to "20Hz" without either loads of EQ/padding on the mid/high frequencies, or struggling so much that either the cone loses the plot, or the ports are chuffing lie a steam train.

anyway, relative to the frequency, the bigger a driver is, the more directional it is, focusing the sound forwards, so less room reflections.

I'm not starting an argument, just interested. :D
big gets my vote.

i suppose the bigger problems are neighbors, space, and the difficulty in getting high quality big stuff, but from the sound point of view 'large' shouldn't be a problem.
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By mr_debauch Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:03 pm
puff froggy frog wrote:don't you all think that larger speakers would/should be better for monitoring? I mean, if the music is intended for use on a PA then you need to check it on a PA.
monitors are generally built with a higher standard of sound quality, as they don't have to be built to withstand loads of abuse, but not all sound systems are cheap shite from china.
doesn't have to be too expensive either. the old jbl cones sound great with some phat analog electronics running them.
theres a whole segment of the hifi nutters scene dedicated to jbl + 2" comp type things. minimal processing, so very little phase f*kups.

i struggle to see how an 8" cone in a monitor (for example), thats already being expected to run up to the tweeter frequencies, can really be expected to go down to "20Hz" without either loads of EQ/padding on the mid/high frequencies, or struggling so much that either the cone loses the plot, or the ports are chuffing lie a steam train.

anyway, relative to the frequency, the bigger a driver is, the more directional it is, focusing the sound forwards, so less room reflections.

I'm not starting an argument, just interested. :D
big gets my vote.

i suppose the bigger problems are neighbors, space, and the difficulty in getting high quality big stuff, but from the sound point of view 'large' shouldn't be a problem.


dude, the higher the frequency the more directional it is... it has nothing to do with driver size. Throw and distance has more to do with the cab style. the 8 inch cones on monitors aren't doing shit all up to 20khz, there is a tweeter on monitors which probably do everything above 2000hz depending on the monitor and it's crossover point.
By A100Drumz Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:54 am
NearTao wrote:Replace the chair... everything else is plenty :)


it came standard with the mpk :lol:

Ruslanio wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:
LvngDead wrote:lmao @ the mpk's broken key.


yeah dont they come like that stock? :lol:


Ye, but he got the special edition with only one key popped.


i wish (sold out) .. had to preorder wat was left with only 2 popped keyz
:lol:

mr_debauch wrote:
j rhodes wrote:
poundaproblem wrote::lol: :lol:


I used to make beats on 4 15"s lololol



DAMN DUDE... i bet that **** had you playing around with bass notes more than anything else! :lol:


****, you wind up with music that sounds muddy on everyone else's stereo...


It sounds great up until i get to a car system.. i try to mix with my headphones until i can get some monitors
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By Shostakovich Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:17 pm
mr_debauch wrote:dude, the higher the frequency the more directional it is... it has nothing to do with driver size.


Edited due to myopia.
Last edited by Shostakovich on Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By j rhodes Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:42 pm
bass/ lower midrange below 200- 350 hz is omnidirectional... thats why in a car it's not suppose to be easily pinpointed... it suppose to have an even spread throught the system... therefore high frequencies would be directional because they have the shortest wavelength and to test that try blocking one ear and listen to whats lost over whats gained...
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By Shostakovich Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:20 pm
Shostakovich wrote:
j rhodes wrote:bass/ lower midrange below 200- 350 hz is omnidirectional... thats why in a car it's not suppose to be easily pinpointed... it suppose to have an even spread throught the system... therefore high frequencies would be directional because they have the shortest wavelength and to test that try blocking one ear and listen to whats lost over whats gained...


Indeed. And I quoted the wrong post. I am unaware of any commercial loudspeaker design that will allow the bass driver to operate below 20Hz.
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By j rhodes Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:44 pm
none would really cept for a custom or specialized transducer (subwoofer) with a proper (huge) cabinet... plus any home, club or car that could withstand the vibrations of 20 hz would have to post that shit on youtube ASAP! :wink:

id love to add a pa system just to c how things would sound... i think they can be very revealing depending on the maker of the monitors... i can remember seeing some old studio pics with them in it and i think they use them as a means of testing as well along with a small shelf system...