opinions on best studio monitors??????

your opinions on the best studio monitors. also...best bang for your buck that knocks but won't cheat you on accuracy in sound.

yamaha ns10m

skalawa wrote:yamaha ns10m

They are shit, but at least they sound only just as good as what 95% of people listen with at home, so they are a good reference, but certainly not a good pair of monitors... I aint dissin, I just used them for so many years in so many studios and they just don't do it for me.... that's personal though

peace

yeah....i heard they were great for mixing because they were sooooo flat and sounded not so good. so that if you got a good mix in those....it would sound good in anything. i also heard that they were discontinued anyway....

Now, if bad monitors make you work harder to get a "good" sound

.....then wouldn't "good" monitors have a reverse effect.....

i dunno. one would assume it would have a reverse effect. anyway....i want monitors that will bump but aren't bass heavy...not treble heavy either. i just want a well rounded monitors package. right now...i have the event 20/20 BAS. but they are a little too big and too much for me. i think i'm gonna sell them and get something smaller.

yes in some way, it woul have a reverse effect. but not totally, you get a false impression, of what it really sounds like. just like when you meet a nice woman and she gots some fine breasts, but really and truly its a wonder bra, so when you do see her with out, she might look strange.

monitors are not suppose to do wonders, they suppose to tell the truth, but also your acoustics of the room plays an equally important part as well. also positioning. you personally have to train your ears as to what is should sound like. i have done tht my ns10s. i have listened to them with no eq, from a cd, of my favorite cd players for a year and a half. so i now know when sumtings bumping.

genelcs are good.
mackies are bass heavy
tannoys are nice, but very room dependant.
yahmaha mp5? i think are suppose to be the replacement monitors for the ns10.
get yur self a pair second hand. also another pair to do a cross reference.
and last but not least, a pair of ole sound box 12s are 15 inch speakers, with those ole radio shack tweeters, for room reference, u need tht in cinjunction with nearfield referencing.

oh and a mono, monitor.

if u need any more info just link me up yo.

bless

"..mackies are bass heavy.."

I was waiting for this to come up. I use the HR824's and I love them. It took me a few months to get used to them BUT your supposed to take time with monitors anyway.....


My mixes translate very well in other systems.......


Heres a monitor article I keep for reference

http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/3 ... enDocument


I hope that helps......

kybeats, you said tht, like you have heard tht mackies are a bit heavy on the bottom
and it says in your article

hello


[url]And how about that bass? The HR824 definitely wins the Mo Bass award. In the right listening position, you’d just swear that there’s a sub somewhere. Unlike the ported models (most of which produced some port chuff at high bass levels) there is no audible distortion from the passive radiator. The bass goes lower, stays flatter, has less audible distortion than any of the other speakers we tested, and yet in a side-by-side comparison, does not sound hyped compared to other reference speakers like the Genelecs and the Dynaudios[/url][url]http://prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/3fbdd95be86013f1862567f30025b305/7ee658e1cba3a77e86256ae10015266a?OpenDocument
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and this one as well

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/nov97/mackiehr824.html?session=6854101b037e28965e6d7047fff5556f

The speakers are shipped with the rear switches in their normal positions, which means maximum bass extension and Full Space bass settings, and in my 12 x 13 foot office, that produced the kind of bass more often associated with cinema sub-bass units during disaster movies. Impressive though it was, I felt the 47Hz and Half Space settings produced a more natural sound balance, but the depth of bass was still unbelievable compared with most other small monitors I've tried.

feel that most home studio owners will be better off selecting the 47Hz bass position rather than leaving the system wide open, and because even with that setting, you can hear further down into the sub-bass than with regular nearfields, it may take a little while to get used to mixing with the HR824s. Even so, any effort will certainly be worth it, as the HR824s deliver main monitor performance for a nearfield price, and on a nearfield budget. What's more, the small size and reasonable weight means these would make great portable references for the travelling producer, not to mention great home cinema speakers for a Dolby Pro Logic system. You have to hear these to believe anything so small could sound so big.


pros & cons
MACKIE HR824 £1299
pros
• Clean sound with tremendous bass extension, even at high SPLs.
• Wide sweet spot and good stereo imaging.
• Variable frequency tailoring to suit the environment and the user's preferences.

cons
• Slightly forward high end.
• Rear-panel legend is very small and difficult to see without strong lighting.

summary
The competitive pricing and extraordinary bass extension of these speakers makes them very attractive to small studio owners who need a more accurate means of monitoring their output than conventional nearfield monitors can provide.


info
£ £1299 per pair including VAT.

A Key Audio Systems, Unit D, 37 Robjohns Road, Chelmsford, Essex CM1 3AG.





this is not guess work my friends, i have used thses and know for myself, i dont type on this forum to build post ratings

"....kybeats, you said tht, like you have heard tht mackies are a bit heavy on the bottom and it says in your article..........."


Yeah skalawa,

A salesman at Mars Music tried to talk me out of the mackie monitors. I did my research though and "Bought them anyway..."

Good look on the article...I don't remember reading that one........I have my settings in the back the same way he has his.......it just seems to have a flatter effect to my ear..........

I got a queston, are you guys discusing Monitors for tracking, mixing or both. I just sold my BX5s because I want at least an 8 inch woofer on my monitors. The 5s were my first monitors and I was tracking and trying to mix and they just didn't do it for me, I need a monitor that translates and can handle more low - end with out hyping the bass. Another problem I had was tracking with the Monitors because their near field and tuned flat I would loose insperation because they had no feeling. Ya know when your tracking you want your music to sound good without teawking it. I would love to have a monitor for tracking that sounds good and can fit in a bed room and a pair of near field monitors and not spend over $700 dollers. Can this be done?

what about the event 20/20 BAS? are they good for tracking and mixing?

do guys use your monitors strictly for listening to your beats and mixing down or do you use them for general purpose everyday use like listening to cd's and records and stuff? cuz right now all i got hooked up is some MTX 15" house speakers through an Onkyo receiver. i'm gonna get some monitors pretty soon and i'd like to get rid of the 15's if possible cuz they take up a lot of room in my "studio" (bedroom).

Skratchmo wrote:do guys use your monitors strictly for listening to your beats and mixing down or do you use them for general purpose everyday use like listening to cd's and records and stuff? cuz right now all i got hooked up is some MTX 15" house speakers through an Onkyo receiver. i'm gonna get some monitors pretty soon and i'd like to get rid of the 15's if possible cuz they take up a lot of room in my "studio" (bedroom).

i only use thegenelecs in the studio....