which producers drums do u like the best

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Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By T.R.O.Y. 718 Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:35 pm
1- my fav drums of all time are dilla's. His snares have a certain snap/crunch that I am yet to hear from anyone else. Also the dude just knew timing like no other, his swing was just incredible.

2- Pete rock...he has so many different drum sounds, a true digger.

3- rza, straight grimey drums...seriously dirty!!!

4- q tip... I often say he's one of the more underrated producers out there. The drums on midnight marauders are off the wall. He's got that dope snap to his drums, kinda similar to that dilla type sound (I guess the ummah was no fluke).

5- havoc- he's kinda similar to rza, I may actually like havoc drums more I just like rza beats a tad more (not much though). He's got a nice vinyl sound, real dirty...

That's a tough question though cuz there's a ton of producers that could be in that top five. It's hard to keep primo out of it but I think his programming is some of the best but his samples don't snap like the ones I mentioned (my opinion). Also large pro is a beast as well as damu the fudgemunk and madlib.

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By dr4track Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:47 pm
I wish more people had made theffort to put only five with mayb 1 or 2 honorable mentions the point was to force u to choose 5 producers that in ure opinion stood out becuz of whatever factors whether it b programming , sound whatever , not just make a list of all the producers u can think of, not a big deal though.

after reading some peoples posts i feel the need to add a little explanation for my choices i noticed a lot of people put down the usual suspects as far as producers go which i person naly chose to stay away from for two reasons i have a hard time separating the legends like premier , dilla ,P.R, RZA, etc.. and to b honest they r not the guys that influenced me the most , made me say whut the **** when i heard them so anyway

EL-P- Funcrusher changed my life that **** was off the chain drums were so hard and the patterns in my pinion very different from what was being done at the time, and the drums on fantastic damage were larger than life i tried for years to gat my snares and kicks to sound as big as his

Kanye- say what u want about him but hes a great producer, at a time when a lot of commercial stuff was about the 808 and a generic sound he brought back the drum break sound and tons of non hip hop heads were dancin to it ,his kick patterns get that a** movin , infectious.

RJD2- need i say anything, but seriously he has or mayb had (im not feelin his stuff as much these days) a way of creatin space that isnt really there between his drum hits , his drums especially on deadringer had a great dynamic range wich is somewhat unusual in hip hop, his snares cant f*** with em MUCH snap , not too mention some of my favorite drum programming

Jake one - SMOOTH super smooth , great fills, nice sound , not super complex, most of all i like that he often dosent use a lot of hihats and u dont notice

Exile -( i originally had dj Excel but he got bumped) theres an intangible about his drums that i cant get my head wrapped around his ghost hits are the sickest his rythm is ill,the sounds seem like they arent quite drums but damn are they good, great patterns great grooves.


honorable mention HI tek - wish it was a 6 person list just for him had to get him on there , his drums are so natural , ( i guess its prob cuz they r i think he mostly records a live kit in studio , samples and reprograms now a days anyways ) ive loved hitek forever my favorite sounding drums for sure

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By ghosty Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:46 am
So funny how 90% of the mentions are east coast sample based jackers.. in an interview this year, dr.dre said there is not one producer out that inspires him right now. They all do the same thing he said.. sample,chop,add drums...

Man was he right...

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By T.R.O.Y. 718 Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:11 am
ghosty wrote:So funny how 90% of the mentions are east coast sample based jackers.. in an interview this year, dr.dre said there is not one producer out that inspires him right now. They all do the same thing he said.. sample,chop,add drums...

Man was he right...


i think its more funny how many ppl are on dre's dick. The ppl mentioned, pete rock, dilla, rza, etc, are all legends. i highly doubt that dre was talking about the best producers from the 90's when he said that. plain n simple east coast hip hop has always been better, more lyrical ability and much more soulful production (my opinion). Im sure he was talking about these wack ass "crunk, south" producers when he said that, cuz they do all sound the same...

"So funny how 90% of the mentions are east coast sample based jackers"...apperently u dont quite understand the essence of hip hop. Even dre is a "sample based jacker" at times. Sampling is hip hop... it all started by looping some drum breaks and mc'n over them (two turntables and a mic). which eventually lead to chopping the breaks up (thanks to marley)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pG_3jZxzlo next episode sample....ur comment was wack man, foreal!!! get ur shit together. EVEN DRE IS A "SAMPLE BASED JACKER"...lmao

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By ghosty Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:03 am
Mad cuzz all u can do is sample? And really all the people on dre? How many times was he memtiond? And rza or dilla? Plus newbie.. there is a difference in sample based and using samples. You fail.

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By T.R.O.Y. 718 Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:55 am
ghosty wrote:Mad cuzz all u can do is sample? And really all the people on dre? How many times was he memtiond? And rza or dilla? Plus newbie.. there is a difference in sample based and using samples. You fail.


well considering this is a thread to discuss your favorite drums why would u expect dre to be on here more then any of the "east coast" artists?

and so theres a difference between dre looping a sample and say rza or pete looping up a sample?

im not about to get into some wack internet argument...have a nice day
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Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By 64hz Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:40 pm
ghosty wrote:Mad cuzz all u can do is sample? And really all the people on dre? How many times was he memtiond? And rza or dilla? Plus newbie.. there is a difference in sample based and using samples. You fail.


You both registered around the same time and ur calling him a newbie? LOL You understand that one of the prime features of an mpc is to sample right? TBH there is no difference in sample based or using sample, both are using some one else idea for your own. They both are the same thing........ :!:

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By ghosty Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:28 pm
Ok. Newbie was a music reference. You fail to. There is a huge difference in a sample based and synthetic producer. The prime feature of the mpc is SEQUENCING drum paterns. Sampling is a tool in the sequencer. You fail at that. And you obviously are a home producer as well 1- 64hz is to low to hear on average speakers ,which is what the majority of customers ( yes i target the largest money tree in the forest of consumption). 2. Your aparent lack of understanding and interpretation of a producer in this hip-hop,rap,crunk,neo-soul,r&b,house,trance,techno. Yes.. all styles with common ground. I.e, kick,snare,clap,hat,effect,precus,string,woods, and a sample. Not always, but sometimes. All sequenced patern music. Now my point, 90% the mentions in this thread use someone elses creative works in 80% of there work. I would say dre is at the 25%range. So is he sample based, or highlighting tracks with samples? The mentiond are highlighting samples. Big difference. And you want just drums? Quincy jones. More platnums then all the mentioned combined. And he is only using samples 10% of the time. So next time tou argue bring a. Lunch before i take you to school.

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By T.R.O.Y. 718 Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:17 pm
ghosty wrote:Ok. Newbie was a music reference. You fail to. There is a huge difference in a sample based and synthetic producer. The prime feature of the mpc is SEQUENCING drum paterns. Sampling is a tool in the sequencer. You fail at that. And you obviously are a home producer as well 1- 64hz is to low to hear on average speakers ,which is what the majority of customers ( yes i target the largest money tree in the forest of consumption). 2. Your aparent lack of understanding and interpretation of a producer in this hip-hop,rap,crunk,neo-soul,r&b,house,trance,techno. Yes.. all styles with common ground. I.e, kick,snare,clap,hat,effect,precus,string,woods, and a sample. Not always, but sometimes. All sequenced patern music. Now my point, 90% the mentions in this thread use someone elses creative works in 80% of there work. I would say dre is at the 25%range. So is he sample based, or highlighting tracks with samples? The mentiond are highlighting samples. Big difference. And you want just drums? Quincy jones. More platnums then all the mentioned combined. And he is only using samples 10% of the time. So next time tou argue bring a. Lunch before i take you to school.


u use the word fail a lot....haha ur a true clown man!

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By dr4track Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:48 pm
really did this become a "sample" vs. "non-sample" argument cmon guys how long r people gonna argue bout this ****. u cant argue the one over the other its like arguing over whether god exists or not , but if u wanna argue one producer over another now at least that an argument that can b had.

Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By T.R.O.Y. 718 Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:16 pm
dr4track wrote:really did this become a "sample" vs. "non-sample" argument cmon guys how long r people gonna argue bout this ****. u cant argue the one over the other its like arguing over whether god exists or not , but if u wanna argue one producer over another now at least that an argument that can b had.


well said
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Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By 64hz Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:03 am
ghosty wrote:Ok. Newbie was a music reference. You fail to. There is a huge difference in a sample based and synthetic producer. The prime feature of the mpc is SEQUENCING drum paterns. Sampling is a tool in the sequencer. You fail at that. And you obviously are a home producer as well 1- 64hz is to low to hear on average speakers ,which is what the majority of customers ( yes i target the largest money tree in the forest of consumption). 2. Your aparent lack of understanding and interpretation of a producer in this hip-hop,rap,crunk,neo-soul,r&b,house,trance,techno. Yes.. all styles with common ground. I.e, kick,snare,clap,hat,effect,precus,string,woods, and a sample. Not always, but sometimes. All sequenced patern music. Now my point, 90% the mentions in this thread use someone elses creative works in 80% of there work. I would say dre is at the 25%range. So is he sample based, or highlighting tracks with samples? The mentiond are highlighting samples. Big difference. And you want just drums? Quincy jones. More platnums then all the mentioned combined. And he is only using samples 10% of the time. So next time tou argue bring a. Lunch before i take you to school.


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Re: which producers drums do u like the best

By T.R.O.Y. 718 Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:21 am
64hz wrote:
ghosty wrote:Ok. Newbie was a music reference. You fail to. There is a huge difference in a sample based and synthetic producer. The prime feature of the mpc is SEQUENCING drum paterns. Sampling is a tool in the sequencer. You fail at that. And you obviously are a home producer as well 1- 64hz is to low to hear on average speakers ,which is what the majority of customers ( yes i target the largest money tree in the forest of consumption). 2. Your aparent lack of understanding and interpretation of a producer in this hip-hop,rap,crunk,neo-soul,r&b,house,trance,techno. Yes.. all styles with common ground. I.e, kick,snare,clap,hat,effect,precus,string,woods, and a sample. Not always, but sometimes. All sequenced patern music. Now my point, 90% the mentions in this thread use someone elses creative works in 80% of there work. I would say dre is at the 25%range. So is he sample based, or highlighting tracks with samples? The mentiond are highlighting samples. Big difference. And you want just drums? Quincy jones. More platnums then all the mentioned combined. And he is only using samples 10% of the time. So next time tou argue bring a. Lunch before i take you to school.


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hahaha, lol thats exactly how i felt when i read that...
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