MPC 2000XL or ASR X?

Asr x and 10 have ok decent sequencers but don't compare to the 2000xl at all

Are you serious, man??
You probably did not have OS 2.67 or a PRO.
Major selling song? Whatever.
Don't like his music, but Don Cannon uses it, Oddissee used it for a long time; like his shit.
Check out what this guy does with it:

http://praise.bandcamp.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7gouZvZ3hU&feature=player_embedded

roxstar wrote:Maaaan! That ASR-X is not all that great. The proof is in the pudding. Is there one major selling song done entirely in the ASR-X ?!?! hahaha! Not saying it can't be done, but I bet 35 seconds into it the sequencer will scramble the sequence.
For what it was (almost 20 years ago) it was dope, but the test of time has showed it wasn't too great. Construction wise, its built like a Hummer H2..never had any pads die on me, but its just not a reliable piece of equipment. Now, if your a gearhead that loves to tinker with parameters more than make a beat, then this is the machine for you. To each his own, but I found the effects in a simple SP-303 to be way better and easier to manipulate over the ASR-X.

PS. I remember listening to the demo song inside the ASR-X before I sold it and thought "THERE IS NO WAY THIS MACHINE DID THAT!" hahaha! Ensoniq was foolin' people with that!

From what I've heard, the true power comes from a combination: ASR-X for the sampler, MPC for the sequencer.

The MPC sequencer is bar none the best you will ever find, and you can get very creative with it, but the sampler is one of the most basic on the market. You won't be doing much 'sound design' unless you get REALLY creative, and use the sequencer to your advantage.

So for what you are talking about, I think the MPC sequencer + external sampler / synth would suit you well. A nice rack sampler or indeed the ASR-X would fair better in terms of raw sound design.

Having said that, what I love about my 2kxl is that I feel I can do anything with it, even given such limited processing. There is power in restriction.

People on here have said that the Black ASR-X doesn't have the same glitches as the ASRX-Pro. If this is true, then I'm telling you to get the Black ASRX over the 2kxl. Dont even **** with that Red ASRXPRO, unless you got $250 to blow.

I got a 2kxl and an ASRXPro.......2kxl has the stability no doubt, but it doesn't have any input through If it had input through, I could use my Korg ESX to mess with sounds and hear them through the 2kxl while the 2kxl is playing a sequence. But because there is no input through, I have to stop the sequence and go to sample mode each time, which **** up the workflow for me. You can get around this using a mixer, but I have limited room and dont like all them wires and shit.

The only downsides to the ASRXPRO is that it WILL ALWAYS start going crazy (high pitched sounds where there shouldnt be and re-arranging notes while playing back a sequence) if you add too many tracks and sounds to your sequence. And the other is that, it will always cut off a sound once the sequence finishes looping.

for example:

You have a 4 bar sequence set to loop at the END of the 4th bar. (your basic looping)
You enter a note at the BEGINNING of the 4th bar, and the note is 2 bars long,
meaning that it should only stop at the end of the 1ST bar. In other words, it
should continue playing even as the sequence ends and loops back.
But this does not happen. The notes will always stop at the end of the 4th bar.
I don't know the exact term for this, but I've described it as best as I can.

Good luck with your choice.

I do a little bit of sound design on my ASR-X Pro, but would never try to write and sequence full pieces on the box. It is just way too fidgety.

I do think the ASR-X Pro is a warm, powerful sound device, but I couldn't recommend it as the centre of a studio.

I haven't used the XL, but generally find MPCs more stable than the ASR-X.

Finally, I would also co-sign on getting an SP-303 or 404 for real-time effects. Great way to go.

When sequencing your samples on the X; always **** with the envelopes.
Like note off on the mpc; adjust that in the envelope section of the X; when you let your samples overlap, weird shit starts to happen.
Unless, of course, y'all already **** with this, which leads me to believe your machines are faulty.

Whatever man, most of y'all already made up your mind; great sampler, but still a shit box, right??
I mean, one of these guys shitted on the X because it has too many parameters to adjust!!
Uphill battle, I tell ya.

You have a 4 bar sequence set to loop at the END of the 4th bar. (your basic looping)
You enter a note at the BEGINNING of the 4th bar, and the note is 2 bars long,
meaning that it should only stop at the end of the 1ST bar. In other words, it
should continue playing even as the sequence ends and loops back.
But this does not happen. The notes will always stop at the end of the 4th bar.
I don't know the exact term for this, but I've described it as best as I can.

Thats not true!
Like Willis Reed said you can set if the samples fade out/stop at the end of a sequence/or play all the way.

Everybody says the ASR X and Pro has too many parameters. I dont think thats negative. You don´t have to use them. And If you are at a point where you want to change some parameters you CAN.

Great about the ASR X / Pro
- use effects while sampling
- use it as a effect rack while playing a synthesizer or whatever sound source
- sample dry or with effects and resample with additional effects
- build in sounds (hihats, cymbals, percussions are always usefull) use your own BD and SN and combine with built in drums
- etc...