MPC5000 vs Maschine

i own both and i mainly use the maschine for when I'm going places. Lugging the 5000 around is bulky and kind of unpractical for travel. You can also just take the files off of the 5000, put it on your computer, then set it up the way you had it. The stock sounds aren't that great(yet to see a product with good stock sounds). I personally sample off of the mpc then transfer it to my computer. As far as which one is smoother for if you want to get a idea out fast and easy i would still have to say the 5000.

I have been using both and i have to say maschine has a fatal flaw. you will end up asking yourself why cant you mute group like on an mpc when you get fancy after about two weeks of REAL WORLD MPC workflow. to me it is the greatest achievement in the mpc wannabe/shouldbe world. the sounds are THAT good. IF YOU LIKE CHOPPING SAMPLES its the best WITHOUT TIMESTRETCHING

i would love to own both but the choice is clear. D Porter drums AND sequences are PROFESSIONAL and the Abbey Road, Scarbee - wait.............. all that inside ANY MPC would be a mess and possibly crash. in my brand new 17 inch i7 with 8gb ram? MAAAAAANNNNN!!!

did i mention im controlling the waldorf largo with my hand on maschine's transport and pads? to do that i would need a mpc5000, a bunch of cables, wires and a virus ti2 to be THAT comfy!

hope i was fair.

No.. mpc only needs 2 midi cables and 1 usb. You can cycle pads, simultainus and control any vst with the mpc and midi. There is no vs only people like you with buyers remorse trying to justify a bad purchase.

Maschine is just another Open Labs Neko workstation. Just another software/computer hybrid and midi controller. Nothing more nothing less.

Question is:
A. Do you prefer using software or hardware for sequencing and editing?
B. Is your computer compatible?
C. What is your budget?

Akai has multiple versions of the MPC at various prices. Personally I find it easier to unplug the MPC, grab a pair of headphones and go. But hey! You can get the same feeling with a Macbook Pro with Reason. Although, thats another story.

I have the 5000's eight outputs going into a mixer for additional equalization. Sometimes I sample from a reel 2 reel. Umm.. Point is.. Developing your own sound is what separates your work from the rest. IMO nothing beats the sound of the MPC outputs going into a Neve style preamp into a top noch AD converter.


And to seiko and other MASCHINE/NEKO users.

Please watch this video before posting anymore advertising about your sponsors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uJptAyn36k

I miss Atlanta... anyways I gotta shameless plug. I got that watch Toomp is wearing anybody want to but it? If so ill send pics.

artificial.intelligence wrote:Maschine is just another Open Labs Neko workstation. Just another software/computer hybrid and midi controller. Nothing more nothing less.


And to seiko and other MASCHINE/NEKO users.

Please watch this video before posting anymore advertising about your sponsors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uJptAyn36k

1) I ain't sponsored by Maschine
2) I have an MPC5000, that's not what the youtube movie is about, is it ?

I don't know what point you are trying to make...

Hello seiko,

seiko wrote:1) I ain't sponsored by Maschine

Wow!!! No commment!

seiko wrote:2) I have an MPC5000, that's not what the youtube movie is about?

I don't know what point you are trying to make...

DJ Toomp is talking about hardware vs software.

My point is >> Basically the title on this forum. Or u can debate it further on:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip-hop-engineering-production/533670-ni-maschine-complete-waste.html

artificial.intelligence wrote:My point is >> Basically the title on this forum. Or u can debate it further on:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip-hop-engineering-production/533670-ni-maschine-complete-waste.html

Thanks for this link.
I read the first sentence of it :

1st. the sound is horrid the 808 kits sound worse then the old Roland drum machines just lifeless no punch at all

As Maschine has no sound engine of its own (but uses the soundcard) and is a sampler (what you put in, comes out) this makes no sense at all.
As a TR-808 owner and MPC 5000 owner I can also tell you TR808 beats out of MPC never will sound 'better' then from a TR-808, I don't understand what this guy expects : 'I use samples this should sound better then the original'. WTF ?

If I read such 100% stupid things, I don't even bother to read further.
If things like this are 'the truth' for you, so be it.
I'm happy using Maschine AND MPC, if you really feel better using only MPC then that's up to you.
Keep reading those very interesting threads on Gearslutz

seiko wrote:

artificial.intelligence wrote:My point is >> Basically the title on this forum. Or u can debate it further on:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/rap-hip-hop-engineering-production/533670-ni-maschine-complete-waste.html

Thanks for this link.
I read the first sentence of it :

1st. the sound is horrid the 808 kits sound worse then the old Roland drum machines just lifeless no punch at all

As Maschine has no sound engine of its own (but uses the soundcard) and is a sampler (what you put in, comes out) this makes no sense at all.
As a TR-808 owner and MPC 5000 owner I can also tell you TR808 beats out of MPC never will sound 'better' then from a TR-808, I don't understand what this guy expects : 'I use samples this should sound better then the original'. WTF ?

If I read such 100% stupid things, I don't even bother to read further.
If things like this are 'the truth' for you, so be it.
I'm happy using Maschine AND MPC, if you really feel better using only MPC then that's up to you.
Keep reading those very interesting threads on Gearslutz

Well said, seiko. Sounds like the dude needs some actual.intelligence.

It's amusing how you use someone else's reply as if it were my words. You should have posted your reply to them, not me. Sorry I haven't read the thread and don't care to know what your talking about. That wasn't the point. Its such a stupid topic I figured you would be better off chatting there.

I like using hardware and software. What you prefer to use is a personal preference. Its about you and your bank. There has been so many debates on what hardware and software is better it defeats the purpose of making music. The companies that make the gear are the winners in the end.

emptysea wrote:Well said, seiko. Sounds like the dude needs some actual.intelligence.

And it also sounds like we have another Maschine sponsor. I'm glad you know how to amuse yourself, but your response is an "emptysea".

artificial.intelligence wrote:Maschine is just another Open Labs Neko workstation. Just another software/computer hybrid and midi controller. Nothing more nothing less.

Get real. There is no "Just another software/computer hybrid" because Maschine is the only one of its kind in existence right now. Know what you're talking about before you speak.

Who cares!

Did you read my late post?

Keyword: PERSONAL PREFERENCE

Exactly. It's all about personal preference.

Just pointing out that Neko has nothing to do with Maschine. Open labs stuff is just a computer and midi controllers if you were to put it all in one case. It has nothing to do with Maschine which has a dedicated hardware controller that works just like hardware except the software brain lives on the computer.

emptysea wrote:Open labs stuff is just a computer and midi controllers if you were to put it all in one case. It has nothing to do with Maschine which has a dedicated hardware controller that works just like hardware except the software brain lives on the computer.

So basically there's **** all difference really!

Map all those midi controls to your software and you're left with something that's in the same ballpark.