MPC Chopping Trick- JD and NO ID

I just watched this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqZyPplH ... re=channel

and JD mentions that he learned a trick about chopping samples end points with the envelopes and not truncating. He said he learned this from NO ID. I was just wondering if anyone here knew what he was talking about and can explain it in further detail. thanks yall


I posted this in the wrong forum... moderator please delete the old one. my bad.

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updated link. thanks.

no one?

I didnt hear anything bout envelopes. Dont know what you're talkin about.

peace

whatup fam. thanks for the reply

maybe not envelopes. i must have misquoted. he said NO ID teaching him about cut offs and how he didnt have to truncate. is he just talking about chokes like i would set a high hat? or just setting a sample to mono?

16levels attack. Explains the envelope thing. Set the pad of the sample ur using to mono.

Idk, if the reply you got on gearslutz was what you were after but if your not familiar try this (im not at the mpc right now so it might not be 100% perfect but hey..)
in sounds (im on 3k) go to soft start and turn it all the way up to 5000 then turn the volume (right below soft start) to zero. now take your sample (hopefully a few seconds long) and turn on 16levels to velocity, oh and turn the sample to mono.
This trick is amazing on the 60 where you dont have alot of tools to work with or memory..

you can fine tune the chops in step edit mode by adjusting the vel. or go to the trim screen and adjust the location of all the chops buy trimming the front end of the sample.. as best i remember it works best with a 6 sec. sample, giving you evenly sized chops, meaning the last chop isnt super long with all the others being very short..
try it if your confused...

thanks for that tip. i just read about it in another thread. i will try that when i go into the studio today.

i guess his "trick" was using mono instead of poly. i didn't think that was a trick but they certainly made it seem like it was some secret that you couldn't figure out without reading the manual. that is MPC 101 tho. i just like finding weird ways to chop in the MPC3 cuz we are so "limited" compared to the other MPCs.

he was just talking about choke groups.

making pads cut each other off.

chop samples, assign them to pads, then have the pads cut each other off.

in the older mpc's one pad can only cut off 2 other pads.

in the newer mpc's they have mute groups, which is nice. whatever pad you assign to the same mute group will cut each other off. that way you dont have to think about which pads you want to cut each other off.

yeah i figured that it was the mono and cutoffs. just thought it was more of loop chopping technique.

Im unable to view the video being as though I have no speakers where im at at the moment, but from what 1 of the "old heads" on this site showed us in a thread (it escapes my mind at the moment) is that when chopping samples you cut at the "Zero Point Crossing" (That might be the incorrect name of it)

But when doing this, you cut from where the samples is touching the zero point either below or above and do this for both beginning and end of the sample, this will cut down/practically eliminate clipping.

Again, being as though I do not have speakers at the moment I couldn't watch the video to understand your question fully OP but I hope that little bit of information helped.

Simple example. Horns pad 1 drums pad 2 . Both set to mono both in mute group 1. When you hit pad one as soon as you hit pad 2 it cuts off pad one. You can do this to make hi hat grooves. Using note repeate, 1/4 and 1/8 on closed and open hats.

incurablebeatlust is on point,i remember another MP3K junkie explained it in the 3000 room,long time ago.That trick is what is all about,maybe the 2nd reason i love my 3k - the 1st is its' design - isn't she a beauty?!