For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
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By Prah_860_ Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:11 pm
starcrusher wrote:Image


this is a dope "bedroom" studio
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By Fung45 Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:25 am
poundaproblem wrote:
epps wrote:\
dopedee wrote:epps you should flip those speakers around


you mean like so the tweets arent so close together?



Widen up your stereo field. You'll notice a difference. Think about it this way, the closer the tweeters are to each other the more mono the audio will sound.

Yea make it real wide so it will reflect off that wall and window more... internet experts :roll:
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By DJ Hellfire Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:32 am
Fung45 wrote:
poundaproblem wrote:
epps wrote:you mean like so the tweets arent so close together?



Widen up your stereo field. You'll notice a difference. Think about it this way, the closer the tweeters are to each other the more mono the audio will sound.

Yea make it real wide so it will reflect off that wall and window more... internet experts :roll:



Yeah, because the monitors being shoved into the book case, amplifying the low end frequencies is actually better than what Pound suggested! :roll: Just because he said separate the speakers more doesn't mean put them next to the window. The picture only shows one corner of the room. There is most likely another area he can move the equipment in the room or get a different desk to achieve what was recommended! You sound exactly like the guy your sarcastic comment describes! :roll:
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By j rhodes Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:07 am
poundaproblem wrote:
Fung45 wrote: Yea make it real wide so it will reflect off that wall and window more... internet experts :roll:



Internet expert :lol: do some homework about who you talkin to.... B***H


fixed :lol: jk
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By DJ Hellfire Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:47 am
j rhodes wrote:
poundaproblem wrote:
Fung45 wrote: Yea make it real wide so it will reflect off that wall and window more... internet experts :roll:



Internet expert :lol: do some homework about who you talkin to.... B***H


fixed :lol: jk



LMAO! Instigator! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By bliprock Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:15 am
god its so good to be able to see all these set ups. Mine needs cleaning up. and stuff like other drum machines not in shot. i mean MPC has the drum machine samples so do not need them hooked up. that and its already 12 power points

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By Fung45 Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm
^See now those are more like it. In my opinion monitors should be on their own stands, tweeters at the top and at ear height, angled 30 degrees from center and equidistant from each other and the listener (sweet spot). My point was flipping those KRKs to put the tweeters on the outside would not help anything in that room.
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By bliprock Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:10 am
Fung45 wrote:^See now those are more like it. In my opinion monitors should be on their own stands, tweeters at the top and at ear height, angled 30 degrees from center and equidistant from each other and the listener (sweet spot). My point was flipping those KRKs to put the tweeters on the outside would not help anything in that room.


yeah when i sit on the couch they are aligned with my head hieght. They are not stands just big 3way speaker bins so kinda not good as the speaker cabinets resonate the low end.. need to isolate a bit more.
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By DJ Hellfire Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:38 am
Fung45 wrote:^See now those are more like it. In my opinion monitors should be on their own stands, tweeters at the top and at ear height, angled 30 degrees from center and equidistant from each other and the listener (sweet spot). My point was flipping those KRKs to put the tweeters on the outside would not help anything in that room.



It will if he does that in addition to moving them farther apart. Obviously that room is not gonna be Sony Studios, but he can at least improve it for his production and make sure he is hearing stereo when he needs and mono when he needs, instead of just mono. Also, with some stands (like mine), the tweeter point above the engineers head and laying them sideways subs in, tweeters out works much better! :wink:
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By Fung45 Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:39 am
Again, farther apart for what reason? Yes it's good to have a wide stereo field but when it comes to a small room with near fields and a window on the main wall, widening things will only cause more problems such as reflection in my opinion. I would have to see a better picture of the room before making suggestions such as speaker placement and where to treat. A dense cloth curtain or blinds may help with the window, personally, I'd put the tweeters at the top and angle the speakers for a start.
By MCL Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:58 am
Horizontal speakers also tend to be a lot more susceptible to comb filtering, making mixing unpredictable and actually result in a smaller sweet spot. Smaller sweet spot isn't so much of an issue if you are monitoring yourself in the near field- but if you are monitoring or collaborating with others it does become an issue.

I'd much prefer monitors vertically placed as Fung suggests. Everyones room is different admittedly - but vertical makes much more sense in practice.
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:58 am
MCL wrote:Horizontal speakers also tend to be a lot more susceptible to comb filtering, making mixing unpredictable and actually result in a smaller sweet spot. Smaller sweet spot isn't so much of an issue if you are monitoring yourself in the near field- but if you are monitoring or collaborating with others it does become an issue.

I'd much prefer monitors vertically placed as Fung suggests. Everyones room is different admittedly - but vertical makes much more sense in practice.


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By poundaproblem Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:26 pm
HF there's no point. I'm not going to argue experience vs theory. I'm willing to bet I've mixed more albums per year then dudes ever did in their lives...but what do I know right :lol:

This is one of the reasons why I help people here thru PM mostly. Because there's always a bunch of Einsteins who THINK they know what they're talking about yet have no real experience to back it up. They just pick up whatever they read, without applying it in real world scenarios, and play professor :lol:

For the record fung....read my post. All I told him was to flip the speakers over, not make them further apart..... :roll: He's not working in the most ideal scenario, the least he can do is get a better representation of what his stereo field actually sounds like. Yall talking like yall work in perfect acoustic environments :lol: get off the computer and get some experience.......