MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
By DJ Skitzophrenik Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:24 am
Lets see your lab or where you create your beats, showoff your MPC 5000!

Here is my lab:

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By otobot Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:03 am
Ha! My setup is laid out pretty similarly.. will post a pic tonight...
By DJ Skitzophrenik Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:02 am
DAMN! Im loving the Control 24 Console and 5000 set up...Real deal studio right there....You guys have some fantastic studios...
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By DJ Skitzophrenik Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:04 am
OtoBot...your studio is so legit, I would feel right at home behind that Digi 003...Love your set up...
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By otobot Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:03 pm
Thanks Skitzophrenik! Like I said it's pretty similarly laid out to your setup with the 003 and the 5K in the center plus the Keys on the left and a 2nd unit (MPC in your case, laptop in mine) lifted on the right... I'd feel right at home there too :D

One question though, your 5K and 3K, do you use both MPC's together? Are they sync'ed or is one driven by the other?
By DJ Skitzophrenik Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:53 am
otobot wrote:Thanks Skitzophrenik! Like I said it's pretty similarly laid out to your setup with the 003 and the 5K in the center plus the Keys on the left and a 2nd unit (MPC in your case, laptop in mine) lifted on the right... I'd feel right at home there too :D

One question though, your 5K and 3K, do you use both MPC's together? Are they sync'ed or is one driven by the other?


Yeah I use the 5000 with the 3000...The 5000 is synced to Midi out C and when I set up the Midi channels on the 3000 I control the 5000's drums...So everything is made on the 3000 Sequencer which gives me a better groove...something is messed up with my Midi Time Code or something because I cant play in 1/16th note for some reason...I have to switch down to /8th notes...but yeah man The 3000 drives the 5000, I just use the 5000 as a sound module...
By DJ Skitzophrenik Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:31 pm
Yo Oto...Whats all that outboard gear that you have? Like how do I boost my sound on my MPC's and my Motif? I want to get that studio sound, I see you have what Compressors and Mic Pre Amps? Or what exactly do I need to get that massive sound?
By DJ Skitzophrenik Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:35 pm
otobot wrote:Thanks Skitzophrenik! Like I said it's pretty similarly laid out to your setup with the 003 and the 5K in the center plus the Keys on the left and a 2nd unit (MPC in your case, laptop in mine) lifted on the right... I'd feel right at home there too :D

One question though, your 5K and 3K, do you use both MPC's together? Are they sync'ed or is one driven by the other?


I have a question for you also...Do I need a mixer if I want to incorporate Compressors, EQ's and PreAmps into my setup because compared to your setup, my setup is naked...although I have the Digi to make up for not having all that outboard gear, what is some of the gear that you have that I need to boost my sound to that studio quality loud sound?
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By otobot Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:23 pm
DJ Skitzophrenik wrote:Yeah I use the 5000 with the 3000...The 5000 is synced to Midi out C and when I set up the Midi channels on the 3000 I control the 5000's drums...So everything is made on the 3000 Sequencer which gives me a better groove...something is messed up with my Midi Time Code or something because I cant play in 1/16th note for some reason...I have to switch down to /8th notes...but yeah man The 3000 drives the 5000, I just use the 5000 as a sound module...


Thanks, cool setup, Skitzo! I guess it's not a Midi Time Code issue, since you only seemt to control the programs on the 5K via MIDI.. but I don't know why you can only play 8th notes.. I guess you mean from the 3K going out to the 5K?

But MIDI Time Code and/or MIDI Clock could be usefull in syncing both units up so they play their own sequences and you would make use of the 5K's sequencer which is also nice even if you prefer the groove of the 3K.

DJ Skitzophrenik wrote:Yo Oto...Whats all that outboard gear that you have? Like how do I boost my sound on my MPC's and my Motif? I want to get that studio sound, I see you have what Compressors and Mic Pre Amps? Or what exactly do I need to get that massive sound?


I have a ART Pro VLA II compressor which is in the master insert of the small mixer on the desk (I wouldn't really need a mixer to make use of it on the master). But havin it on the master insert of a mixer, I can send any channel through it (also from the other devices) and resample it. Every sound generating device I have ends up on the mix bus of that little unit (Soundcraft EPM-6). The other mixer on the right (Tascam M-216) is for the single outputs of my MPC 5K and my E-Mu EMAX plus for the return channels of my outboard effects (Lexicon LXP-1 and LXP-5, TC-M-One).. it's master out goes out to one stereo channel of the Soundcraft mixer. So the bigger of the 2 mixers is actually the sub mixer.

The Mic pre is an SPL Channel One I have like more than 10 years now. I can use it to fatten up, eq, compress, and distort some mono sound sources, but it's primarily for the mic recordings.

I use the mixers also to get some analog 'vibe' to tracks that I run out of Pro Tools (generally out of the computer).. both mixers actually proved to saturate really nicely when the input is pushed and the channel fader is lowered. I use that technique to resample drums and bring them really up front.

DJ Skitzophrenik wrote:I have a question for you also...Do I need a mixer if I want to incorporate Compressors, EQ's and PreAmps into my setup because compared to your setup, my setup is naked...although I have the Digi to make up for not having all that outboard gear, what is some of the gear that you have that I need to boost my sound to that studio quality loud sound?


To get a "massive" sound you actually really don't need all the outboard. You can get much of that vibe also by using plug-in compressors, EQs, saturators, limiters, etc.. like for example McDSP Analog Channel, CompressorBank, URS Saturation, etc..

The other important factor to a hitting, balanced, loud and massive sound is the final mastering.

I chose to have again access to outboard not for a loud and finished sound, but for a couple of other reasons:

1. To have more "colors in the palette" -> to be able to choose if I want to use plug-in A or hardware B.
2. To be able to finish up a track without starting the computer (kinda old school workflow, that forces you to be more creative and commit yourself to sounds)
3. For the hands on controls. it's just more fun having access to functions via pads, buttons, faders, knobs, instead of staring onto a computer monitor.

But again, you don't really need much outboard gear to get that "massive" sound. It's all possible in the computer with the knowledge and experience that is also needed in the outboard/analog world to get a mix right and a final master that is competitive.
By Musze3000 Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:18 am
I would like to know what audio interfaces you guys are using? I just started setting up my home studio; I have an MBox2 but just purchased Logis studio 9 so will be using this as my main DAW; I have listed my equipment below and was looking real hard at the Apogee Duet because of rave reviews and Logic integration but see my equipment below, I need more I/O, the Ensemble is a little out of my price range at the moment! Any suggestions if I do purchase the Duet for set up or any other interface suggestions? Right now I'm just creating beats!

MPC5000
iMac (Logic 9 and PT 8LE with MBox) Logic will be main DAW.
Yamaha Motif XS
Korg R3
Waldorf Blofeld

After reading all reviews on audio interfaces I'm really confused on what audio interface to go with; don't really need mixing board right now, just sequencing creating beats and using keyboard sounds! Any suggestions on my set up if I do go with the Duet or recommend another audio interface? Should I run everything into my 5000 and run the 5000 into the Duet? Very new to this set up and need help/suggestions! Ready to start creating!

Thanks Fam!
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By YumYumRolex Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:52 am
otobot wrote:
DJ Skitzophrenik wrote:Yeah I use the 5000 with the 3000...The 5000 is synced to Midi out C and when I set up the Midi channels on the 3000 I control the 5000's drums...So everything is made on the 3000 Sequencer which gives me a better groove...something is messed up with my Midi Time Code or something because I cant play in 1/16th note for some reason...I have to switch down to /8th notes...but yeah man The 3000 drives the 5000, I just use the 5000 as a sound module...


Thanks, cool setup, Skitzo! I guess it's not a Midi Time Code issue, since you only seemt to control the programs on the 5K via MIDI.. but I don't know why you can only play 8th notes.. I guess you mean from the 3K going out to the 5K?

But MIDI Time Code and/or MIDI Clock could be usefull in syncing both units up so they play their own sequences and you would make use of the 5K's sequencer which is also nice even if you prefer the groove of the 3K.

Damn so you dont know why the 3000 wont play in 16th notes? That really gets my buttons right there, I cant figure it out either, its starting to piss me off because I cant sequence...It wont let me play my drum patterns out because I use 1/16th note patterns I like those sped up high hats and quick hitting kiks...

By the way, this is DJ Skitzophrenik, I cant seem to login on my other account...I forgot my login or my password or something....But thanks for the info OTO!
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By otobot Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:36 pm
YumYumRolex wrote:Damn so you dont know why the 3000 wont play in 16th notes? That really gets my buttons right there, I cant figure it out either, its starting to piss me off because I cant sequence...It wont let me play my drum patterns out because I use 1/16th note patterns I like those sped up high hats and quick hitting kiks...

By the way, this is DJ Skitzophrenik, I cant seem to login on my other account...I forgot my login or my password or something....But thanks for the info OTO!


Hey Skitzo, no, really don't know why that is.. tbh I also don't know much about the settings of the 3K since I never owned one.
But maybe you could sequence from the 5K (like I said I think its' sequencer is great).. so you would have control from the 5K and as a special added bonus the sound of the 3K.

Cheers
By DJ Skitzophrenik Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:44 am
otobot wrote:
YumYumRolex wrote:Damn so you dont know why the 3000 wont play in 16th notes? That really gets my buttons right there, I cant figure it out either, its starting to piss me off because I cant sequence...It wont let me play my drum patterns out because I use 1/16th note patterns I like those sped up high hats and quick hitting kiks...

By the way, this is DJ Skitzophrenik, I cant seem to login on my other account...I forgot my login or my password or something....But thanks for the info OTO!


Hey Skitzo, no, really don't know why that is.. tbh I also don't know much about the settings of the 3K since I never owned one.
But maybe you could sequence from the 5K (like I said I think its' sequencer is great).. so you would have control from the 5K and as a special added bonus the sound of the 3K.

Cheers


So how would I go about doing that? Chain the Midi out off the Digi to the MPC 5K then out the 5K to the Motif and then out the 5K to the 3K?