Live hi hat tricks

I tried to take the same hi hat and putting it on 16 tune levels and play it with velocity full off. I can get it to sound live. What do yall do to get hi hats to have dynamics and have a live groove?

have you tried the hi hat decay slider? perhaps you could use multible hi hat sounds as well

Maybe you should follow this "expert" instructions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCc1svUb1Oc&feature=channel

I really hate expertvillage!!!!!!!!

Ha ha yes! I really wonder if this one is not a joke, this guy really can't play drums

maara wrote:I really hate expertvillage!!!!!!!!

why??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EnrRdQ7 ... re=channel



peace

42000 views?! that's 42000 people disappointed by his oversized head

If you can find a loop where the highs can be sampled as one shots, get about 4. Record your sequence with full velocity off and quantize off. With a little trial and error you can make it sound dope. Think about it, it sounded dope on the break...if you sequence it right and edit it right you'll get good results

poundaproblem wrote:If you can find a loop where the highs can be sampled as one shots, get about 4. Record your sequence with full velocity off and quantize off. With a little trial and error you can make it sound dope. Think about it, it sounded dope on the break...if you sequence it right and edit it right you'll get good results

Thats whats up. Do you know of any break I can cop?

well, the technique i almost always use isnt neccesarily "live" like completely sounding real or whatever. but it adds bounce.

its real simple. you can definately do more, but this is the easiest way to add bounce with your hihats with very very little work. here it goes:

alternate hihat velocities on a 1/16th hihat pattern. i.e. X x X x X etc.

here is how i do it:
i will use note repeat to create 1/16th pattern on track A. then i copy that to track B. then i go to grid edit on track A and delete all the even hits. then i go into track B and delete all the odd hits. now if you play both tracks together it sounds like a regular 1/16th note repeat pattern. now lower the velocity of the entire track B so track B velocity is like half of track A i.e. track A-110% & track B-30% (usually i mess with the exact values until it sounds nice). so there is a relationship between track A and B of LOUD and QUIET

the idea is to get a LOUD QUIET LOUD QUIET pattern going to give the track bounce. louder hits on the downbeat. accenting the beat like that gives it a push pull bounce feeling, even on the most simple pattern

ya know! sorry for shitty explanation, probably easier to show in video.

Once you get that down, you can instead of using note repeat, freestyle it using velocity in 16 levels. alternating the velocities gives push pull feeling. you dont just have to have exact values, you can add more variation, or you can even use differant hihat tones. etc.

now i dont even use note repeat. i just tap out without quantize so that i can make it groove how i like, then i add to it by doing the copy thing and deleteing alternating hits and adjust the velocity of each track. sometimes ill just put on 16 levels velocity and just do the alternating all in one track

you can accomplish similar results by using shakers too. lay down straight 1/16th hihat pattern with normal hihat. then go in with a shaker but dont do same pattern, do it 1/8th on all the downbeats. experiment!

lol can this turn into a Expert Village fail thread...

my fave..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg0eVmHi ... re=channel

but that drummer vid was pretty horrible..

Chop breakbeats and learn to replay them exactly how they originally sounded. This is what I did since 2003.
As simple as it sounds, the learning process is never-ending! I could tell you to use velocity, or don't quantize, but there is so much more to it.
To really know how to program drums, your going to have to listen/study how real drummers play. Learn to incorporate the "little" nuances into your own beats. Don't go overboard trying to replicate Billy Cobham on your first attempt. Practice basic rudiments on your drum machine. A few days out the week, forget about making beats... sometimes you gotta play around with sounds and make absolutely nothing.

there is a tool for every aplication. in this case it's a drum set

I set the velocity to slightly effect the pitch of the sample. I also have drum sets in my sound module that I've tweeked and I layer them together. I play leaving quantize off and try my best to play as a drummer would. It's given me fairly decent results.

Keep in mind. It is impossiable to play a open hat and closed hat at the same time. Real drummers play both in the same patern most of the time. So if you want your stale for on the floor hat groove to move better. Dont forget to use open and closed hat combos. NEVER layer a closed and open. Its not like a snare and clap trick to create the famous G-unit style "lock" clap.