Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
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By AntonPD Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:38 pm
Housemaster wrote:"mc's dont walk up in other mc's house and just pick up there composition like "let me read your rhymes bro i wanna flip some shit"

*Jay-Z ducks out the back door

:mrgreen:
By soopa Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:09 pm
Housemaster wrote:"mc's dont walk up in other mc's house and just pick up there composition like "let me read your rhymes bro i wanna flip some ****"

*Jay-Z ducks out the back door



but I do know a kid who always just walks in my homie's house and spits over everything playing(even with rappin on it) and tries to say and think how hes better than the artist playing... if that connects at all lol. apparently he's the illest and no one is smart enough to understand him.... or that one hit of dust really did him in.
Bymember_5949kfk50e0d3 Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:10 pm
also after I realized the mpc wasn't designed for sampling records (opposed to the sp1200) It had an impact because I've been trying to use it in a more conventional way
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By switch18 Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:27 pm
crossings wrote:
Ill-Green wrote:Elvis and the Rolling Stones never paid a dime to the original Blues artists that they got their songs from


add Led Zeppelin to the very top of that list as well...


Didn't Chuck Berry and company from Chess Records win their lawsuits against Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan?...I thought I saw that in the end credits of the movie called Cadillac Records?

Steal every sample you can!
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By crossings Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:33 pm
i don't wanna ruin the zeppelin catalog for any fans out there, but facts are facts...

"Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" - A folk song by Anne Bredon, this was originally credited as "traditional, arranged by Jimmy Page," then "words and music by Jimmy Page," and then, following legal action, "Bredon/Page/Plant."

"Black Mountain Side" - uncredited version of a traditional folk tune previously recorded by Bert Jansch.

"Bring It On Home" - the first section is an uncredited cover of the Willie Dixon tune (as performed by the imposter Sonny Boy Williamson).

"Communication Breakdown" - apparently derived from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown."

"Custard Pie" - uncredited cover of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down," with lyrics from Sleepy John Estes's "Drop Down Daddy."

"Dazed And Confused" - uncredited cover of the Jake Holmes song (see The Above Ground Sound Of Jake Holmes).

"Hats Off To (Roy) Harper" - uncredited version of Bukka White's "Shake 'Em On Down."

"How Many More Times" - Part one is an uncredited cover of the Howlin' Wolf song (available on numerous compilations). Part two is an uncredited cover of Albert King's "The Hunter."

"In My Time Of Dying" - uncredited cover of the traditional song (as heard on Bob Dylan's debut).

"The Lemon Song" - uncredited cover of Howlin' Wolf's "Killing Floor" - Wolf's publisher sued Zeppelin in the early 70s and settled out of court.

"Moby Dick" - written and first recorded by Sleepy John Estes under the title "The Girl I Love," and later covered by Bobby Parker.

"Nobody's Fault But Mine" - uncredited cover of the Blind Willie Johnson blues.

"Since I've Been Lovin' You" - lyrics are the same as Moby Grape's "Never," though the music isn't similar.

"Stairway To Heaven" - the main guitar line is apparently from "Taurus" by Spirit.

"White Summer" - uncredited cover of Davey Graham's "She Moved Through The Fair."

"Whole Lotta Love" - lyrics are from the Willie Dixon blues "You Need Love."
By ghosty Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:12 pm
I have delt with C and D orders from the courts.. not fun. Lost 100% song rights and 13% album royaltys (13 songs/ 1 song at 10% of total songs). Lost an artist outta the shit. Clear shit man. They went back on shit i did before i was doing good business with known artists. Sample digging arrived from avoidence. If you dig a brizian break beat from the 60's.. had 1 record.. chances are, your good. But if you use shit 1million people have heard.. you think your safe? Dr.dre and quick were sued for 300million dollars. Scott stortch and dre for millions for sampling an arab song.. i mean the n!ggs took the riff,hook, and vocal sample.. if your gonna play the game, dont be mad if you lose
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By emceewhiterabbit Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:35 pm
wow, haven't had to worry about sample clearance before, and this thread has inspired me to never worry about it period.
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By sinister_keys Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:01 pm
if and when i do sample i clear the sample, its not that expensive depending on where you go to get it cleared.

http://clearingsky.net/index.htm

i use them ^^^^ but there are others
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By crossings Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:22 am
ghosty wrote:Dr.dre and quick were sued for 300million dollars.


it was actually 500 million for the sample on Truth Hurts "Addictive"... :shock: :o
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By peterpiper Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:52 am
crossings wrote:
ghosty wrote:Dr.dre and quick were sued for 300million dollars.


it was actually 500 million for the sample on Truth Hurts "Addictive"... :shock: :o



The BT Express sample??? 500 million???? joke, right?? :shock:

peace
By soopa Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:53 am
crossings wrote:
ghosty wrote:Dr.dre and quick were sued for 300million dollars.


it was actually 500 million for the sample on Truth Hurts "Addictive"... :shock: :o



wow. just wow
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By crossings Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:36 am
peterpiper wrote:
crossings wrote:
ghosty wrote:Dr.dre and quick were sued for 300million dollars.


it was actually 500 million for the sample on Truth Hurts "Addictive"... :shock: :o



The BT Express sample??? 500 million???? joke, right?? :shock:

peace


nah... they sampled "Thoda Resham Lagta Hai" by Lata Mangeshkar without permission...
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By quietizkept Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:03 am
Sounds are clay. It's up to the Artist to make a sculpture. Sampling eventually snatched mainstream popularity, but unfortunately, it was made famous to the mainstream by lesser artists, who took advantage of how easy it was just to put generic rap drums on an already hot loop and clock bread. That shit is DRYSNITCHIN'. These guys brought heat down on the rest of us, to be sure, the wrong kind of attention.

All music come from somewhere. All we musicians do is run it through a complex filter. Every passage has been done to death. All we musicians have is our unique filter. EVERY sampling critic I meet face-to-face can't play as many instruments as me, unless I hang around the music building at Morehead State University. AC/DC is clown shit on guitar. Creedence is fairly simple to play. But so what? Both these bands' music have a massive following that spans decades. My main instrument is a sampler, but I also play live instruments. The only reason I push to get better on instruments is to make better hiphop beats. A good 98% of my tracks don't even have any samples save drum machine one-shots, but it's my God given RIGHT to make my music however the hell my heart wants me too. I think sampling artists, or any other Artist should use the honor system. We know who we owe.