Is this all I need to start rapping & producing?

oneday2one wrote:seriously, ... you guy's should quit f%&ing with the poor guy, .... we've all been there in some way shape or form.

just tell him to calm down a little bit.

he's on the 5000 forums, ... so tell him the truth

all he needs is mpc5000
headphones,
dynamic microphone,
and possibly a cheap midi keyboard, ... and he's good.

if he can figure that out, he can build from there.

A poor guy he definatly isn't

jurrell: ... 'that's not how it works 'bra'' - it ain't got nothin to do with money.

how long you been around anyway?

point is, ... you don't go from being master of none of the equipment and walk into a room full of equipment and expect to make commercial quality music. even if it's a million dollar studio.

it just don't work like that.

that's why i said

ghosty wrote:if he can figure that out, he can build from there.

meaning? ... once he masters or "really figures out" the ins and out of the mpc 5000, ... he will 'then' know what he needs next to achieve what he's trying to achieve.

new rule, ... of your obviously a novice, ... save your breath. - or at least with replies to oneday2one.

or, ... just run out and blindly buy $8000 worth of equipment only posting ideas on forums to build up your nerves and guts enough to do so, ... i'm sure the equipment manufacturers absolutely 'love' you guys.

ha. Il leave you to make your ill conceived judgements about how much i know, but i know that many producers make deep beats with nothin more than a cracked version of fruity than many producers do with 10g of gear. Yes i am new to mpcs but i got more than half my life of studio and daw experience and i know that skill comes before gear and you don't need to buy like a nut to gain some fundamental understanding of how to set up and produce with ANY KIND OF GEAR

You forgot the most important peice of equipment

You will need an audio interface. If you get all that nice gear, i'm sure you don't want to record into the mic input of your imac...

I may sound like a salesman, but since you don't seem to be short on money, i would get a good audio interface like an apogee duet (especially designed for mac computers)... if you don't need more than two instrument inputs (also has two mic inputs). It's a limited interface regarding connections, but the pre-amps in this thing are out of this world.

Shortcuts & the easy way out ain't going to do anybody any justice. I'm not in the position to judge anybody's capabilities, but the way folks approach this production thing these days is pretty much a joke.

The bad thing about all of this is having an individual learn sh!t the wrong way (which they think is right), then get confronted at some point in their endeavors to only find out they've been doing it wrong for so long.

It can be embarrassing & maddening at the same time.

That tweakheadz link btw will help out tremendously.

Start with a sampler and headphones, then when your beat game is up and you feel crunched with just a sampler and head phones, then thats when you bring in other gear and build little by little.

Thats how I started, but then when I got my job, I went gear-crazy like you and thought I was building a studio in my house. After a while all that gear was rarely used and catching dust. I frowned at my investment because I had to learn all that and creativity was put on hold. I sold all that junk and couldn't be happier with my minimal set-up.

jibber wrote:You will need an audio interface. If you get all that nice gear, i'm sure you don't want to record into the mic input of your imac...

I may sound like a salesman, but since you don't seem to be short on money, i would get a good audio interface like an apogee duet (especially designed for mac computers)... if you don't need more than two instrument inputs (also has two mic inputs). It's a limited interface regarding connections, but the pre-amps in this thing are out of this world.

+1 i would get an interface (with enough ins and outs to plug everything in) and maybe 2 good mic pres (so you can record stereo out of your keyboard or your mp aswell as your mono channel on your mic), and ditch the mixer alltogether.

you really dont need 2 external mic pres per say (ive always had good results going out of my mp or turntable into my shitty interface), but 1 would be good, (for the mic).

and acoustic treating the room should be on the top of your list. your mixes arent going to translate if your room has an uneven sound projection.

i would also ditch that wack keyboard and just get a midi controller like the axium 25 or 49 if you really need both the octaves.

why are you set on cubase? logic comes with a bunch of software synths and plugins out of the box, you could get logic 9 for 500 dollars instead of paying for cubase with barley any plugins or sofsynths for twice or 3 times the price. (i didnt check the cubase price before i wrote this so dont quote me on this)

for a mic for vocals, i would check out the audio technica 4050 its around 500 to 600 dollars and you will be able to use it for life.

Personal opinion of course,


Ditch the imac, get a macbook Pro, or maybe an ADK, or Clevo laptop, or something like that. That way you could take it anywhere.

KRK's are fine.

Ditch that workstation, and get yourself a decent midi controller, then you could pick and choose various VST's for half the money that will blow the pants off that thing.

Ditch the 5000, get a 2500 with JJOS. or 1000 with JJOS.

Ditch the slow lumbering clunky Sonar and go with either Logic, or Reaper. Reaper is $40.00 right now!

You will need an audio interface. RME, MOTU are really nice. RME Babyface, or FireFace UC would be my pick right now.

Get some headphones, take the stairs, get a new shirt. (JK)Sorry couldn't help it I just got done watching "The Specialist"

Cicatrix wrote:
Get some headphones, take the stairs, get a new shirt. (JK)Sorry couldn't help it I just got done watching "The Specialist"

^^^^

plus 1 on the babyface or fireface with logic on a macbook pro.
and i would get yamaha hs-50s before i would even think about tocuching the krks...

Cicatrix wrote:Ditch the slow lumbering clunky Sonar

I never liked cakewalk when I first started using it's "Pro Audio 6" version back in the late 90's.

I think it's parent company back then (12 tone music systems I think) wasn't up to par with putting out reputable DAW programs.

But as time moved on & a company overhaul/takeover took place, I can't personally say what occured a decade or more ago is the same now-a-days.

Though I haven't used cakewalk/sonar products since then, I think it's on another plateau these days given that Roland is now running the show.

Sonar is clunky and ugly but they are optimized to run on windows and was the first to support 64bit.

I prefer Cubase or reaper

in some of these threads i wonder if the OP is even ever gonna read our suggestions.

jurrell wrote:Btw a lot of us might not like the fact you just roll up lookin to get a setup better than the one some of us took years to save

that's hella stupid, speak for yourself and on your behalf only