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By Murahachibu Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:04 pm
Lately my MPC has been getting less and less use, as I've been focusing my energy more on guitar and bass. When I do use it, I mostly just use it to control or sequence Battery 3. It seems like such a waste, so I'm thinking that I'd like to build a couple of kits in the MPC using the battery samples so that I can work on some drum sequences without having to boot up the computer.

Have any of you built programs using the Battery samples? If so, how did you go about it. There are just so many multisamples in Battery that I'm not sure which ones to choose. For example, when dealing with multisamples for individual drums, do you recommend just dividing the total number of samples for that particular drum by 4 and grabbing the first, last, and two others in between? Also, what settings did you use (level, range). It's been ages since I've built and MPC kit.

If I do build some kits, I was thinking of using Pad 187 - as I'm on a Mac. Is there a better way to accomplish this. I'd like to get a game plan together before tackling this chore.
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By konc3pt Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:43 pm
I think it would be easier and less time consuming to midi up your mpc to battery
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By Murahachibu Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:17 pm
Wow. That's pretty embarrassing. :oops:

Sorry about that. I messed around with that about a year ago and stopped because it was such a pain in the ass. I recently thought about trying it again, but couldn't remember who had walked me through the process. I guess I know now. :D

To be honest, I was kind of hoping there would be a less time consuming solution, but I guess not. Might be time to bury that idea for good.
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By konc3pt Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:40 pm
why not sample them in as you go or like i said earlier use battery as sound module.
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By Murahachibu Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:30 am
konc3pt wrote:why not sample them in as you go or like i said earlier use battery as sound module.


Sampling would be a good way to go for one sample per pad, but I favor acoustic kits, and I'm really spoiled by the dynamics you get from multisamples, so it seems better to work with the original wav files than to have to re-sample each drum at different velocities and then rebuild the programs that way.

Like you said, controlling Battery from the MPC is the best solution as you get to take advantage of Battery's full sample library, and there's no program building involved. That's actually what I've been doing for the past couple of years.

Given the layout of my room, it means that I can't leave my MPC permanently midi'ed to my computer so every time I want to use it I have to stretch a cable across the room to the computer, boot up Battery, mess with settings, etc. It kind of kills the spontaneity you get from having everything in the one box.

I have always hoped NI would add an export to MPC feature, but I guess that will never happen now that they are directly competing with Akai.

To be honest, the MPC has been one of my favorite pieces of gear over the years, and I have been trying not to admit to myself that, for what I use it for these days, it actually would make more sense to finally just learn to sequence in Logic and ditch the MPC. I have a bunch of old school drum machine programs in the MPC from back in the day, so maybe I'll try using it as an old school beat box for a while and see if it's worth keeping around.
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By AntonPD Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:00 pm
you can try if this works for you: use your mpc and its programs to record your performance when your computer isnt on
you can use the midi information afterwards to send to the pc and use the multisampled battery stuff
so basically 'demo' it in the mpc, and track the midi out afterwards.
By Clint Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:10 pm
DJ Plan A wrote:You already made this thread...

http://mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... y#p1184441


Will let this go on since it was almost a year ago.

I agree with others that have advised you that using Battery via midi is the better option.

Otherwise build kits in the MPC by sampling the following velocities for each drum sound.

1. High velocity [98-127]
2. Medium velocity [65-97]
3. Low velocity [33-64]
4. Ghost note [0-32]

Once sampled, assemble into four zones and use velocity switching to select the correct sample for playback.

Adjust the range of each zone to suit your taste and save the program.
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By Murahachibu Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:41 am
clint246clint wrote:
Will let this go on since it was almost a year ago.


Thanks. Won't happen again, and cheers for the advice.