MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
By daveyP Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:29 am
The kind folks at Akai have exchanged my faulty MPC for a brand new one so here's to being third time lucky!

Time to get my head back in the manual and beat making.
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By Ill-Green Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:03 am
:shock: Wow, Akai finally broke down and sent a customer a new MPC.

Can't wait to hear the verdict. Third times the charm you know :wink:
By daveyP Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:59 pm
Well with all the replacements i had three machines in my house at one point. Finally got the chance to switch it on tonight. Plugged in my synth to record my samples and after programming the beat......it crashed. Got stuck, photographed the error screen this time incase once again it was fooked. Had to reboot and away i went on with my beat. Had fun but not so happy to see it crash after literally 5 minutes of use this time. I can accept the odd crash, and at this point can put up with a few crashes but if it is to lock on me, and break good and proper i'll be bitterly disappointed with it. Gonna make sure i get some use out of it to check its stable otherwise this time i will be demanding my money back.
Thought i was the only one moaning and bad mouthing the 5000 on here after some of the replies ive had over the last few months, but since logging on it seems more people have been having problems with the 5000; wonder why akai tell me on the phone that they dont get many issues with this machine? Hope they are being genuine with me.

Anyway, if it stays working i should have some fun with it now but if it is to konk out then i think that will be the last straw and id have to make my beats using another company.
Funny, my alesis sr 16 has kept going for nearly 15 years no problem, maybe i'll end up going back to that hahaha.

DaveyP




Ps check out bandcamp.com for daveyP. Uploaded my imusic ipad made album there yesterday. Its kept me busy between mpc replacements!





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By CoinUp! Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:43 pm
Yeah you have been pretty annoying concerning the 5000. That you read about more and more people complaining is your perception ans biasm? Mine is fine but I don't bother to mention that and so do many others.

Sorry to hear that you had to exchange your 5000 numerous times. Maybe it's a sign or bad karma, but the 5000 may just not be for you.

I'm happy with mine even with the occasional crashes. Even that doesn't bother me because I save again and again. Or I don't push it if you know it's going to crash.

Yes I do want improvements and fixes of the 5000, but there are users that are happy with their 5000 not because they have to considering they paid alot for it, but just because..........
By dustymaestro Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:20 pm
Why dont you video tape your process? We could probably help you.
By daveyP Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:05 am
It is nothing im doing wrong and im certainly not 'pushing it' as you put it. I literally had it on for five or ten minutes last night before that crash. I can put up with that and also save all the time too, on whatever platform im using. Its certainly not bad karma as ever other bit of gear is working for me, guitars, basses, my synth, uke, mando, electribes, zoom street box, alesis sr 16, various ipad software music apps. I save all the time on those too, just in case.
I briefly switched the 5000 on tonight and added a couple more synth line samples to the thing i was playing around with last night, no crashes, thanks god. Its damn fun when it works and has filled me with ideas and creative juice for what implan to do with it. Im sure there are plenty of people who haven't had problems with their 5000 but you surely cant deny that there appears to be plenty who have and are bad mouthing this particular mpc. Im sure a feed next to this one has a guyy saying he's had enough of the crashes and spending out to fix it that he's now sold it. Maybe you'd feel the same as me if you had the same problems with it that ive had, and i assure you its not through pushing its limits, misuse or anything of that nature i assure you. Id feel the same if every time i picked up my guitar the neck fell off, id say that was shit and that couldnt be denied! Haha.
So, can i ask how long youve had your mpc and if you post your beats online or do anything else with them? I have two albums in mind, concept ones, one is a follow up to one i made using my old drum machine, bass, guitar, and old keyboard, and the other...well, thats a secret for now.
What other gear or software do you use?

Dp
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By Ill-Green Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:07 am
Regardless, a flagship device like the 5000 shouldn't have problems at all. I think a crash is the most frustrating thing to happen to music gear and for some peeps to accept it and live with it is just sucking lemons. I pushed many samplers to the limit but only a slow-down occurs. I never knew samplers crashed until I bought from Nukai.
By CoinUp! Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:14 am
You don't expect your music gear to express, but it's okay that your computer crashes more then you can count?

This is a drumCOMPUTER! What do you expect? What about the expensive sequencers with numerous bugs at start? Is that ok? No it isn't! The difference is service towards the users which is seriously lacking.

btw Among other stuff i used to have the Prophet 8 with pore rotary buttons/meters, people complaint and DI fixed it. It's all about customer service
By daveyP Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:55 pm
Well i actually agree that it shouldnt crash, but my moans about that on here dont seem to be accepted. I agree you should able to push stuff to the limits, but so far ive barelt scratched the surface on the simplest of things this machine does and its crashed. Iv seen more crash errors than i do using my pc, in general not talking music software. And on that note, pcs probebly suffer crashes more due to all the executable programs that get on there from the internet and also compatibilty of software apps etc. A stand alone machine surely should be tested, at least in its simplest of operations to make sure it doesnt crash. It defo will be a work spoiler if i find it does this. Gonna see how it goes anyway. I know the unit does alot of wicked things and it exciting that we are at this point technologywise but like i always say computers are great when they work but when they dont, jezzz, they are a pain and a half.

Right, 5000 question. Once you record a sample and you get the option to save it, is there a way to create a new folder for it or do i always have to use that blank one called program one? Do i create one earlier in the hardrive or when linked up to the pc or what? Also if i have saved all my newly recorded samples in program 1 folder if i rename it later will the sequence recognise it or will i have to reset the bank its in (not 'bank' but i cant think of the name)?

Dp
By seiko Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:35 pm
daveyP wrote:Right, 5000 question. Once you record a sample and you get the option to save it, is there a way to create a new folder for it or do i always have to use that blank one called program one?

yes...you can make new folders

daveyP wrote:
Do i create one earlier in the hardrive or when linked up to the pc or what?

wherever you want (CF/Harddrive)

daveyP wrote:
Also if i have saved all my newly recorded samples in program 1 folder if i rename it later will the sequence recognise it or will i have to reset the bank its in (not 'bank' but i cant think of the name)?

Don't know why you would start renaming things ?
Try it and you'll know it.

It all depends on how/where you save your samples/sequences etc

I would advise to do a 'save entire memory' then you don't have to worry about all the questions above...
By seiko Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:41 pm
on a sidenote .. if you ask such quite noobish questions, I might suspect you are maybe doing things wrong to have your unit(s) crash that much.
I do get the occasional 'once in three months' crash but the rate you are having it with 3 units ?
By LivePsy Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:56 am
seiko wrote:on a sidenote .. if you ask such quite noobish questions, I might suspect you are maybe doing things wrong to have your unit(s) crash that much.
I do get the occasional 'once in three months' crash but the rate you are having it with 3 units ?


From my IT support experience, every so often someone finds a method (or maybe in this case some broken samples) which cause a crash. And I've seen those people keep crashing machines and think its funny. I'm getting my doubts about the intentions of this poster.

3 MPC's and they ALL crash? More chance of a meteorite wiping out humanity tomorrow morning...
By daveyP Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:55 am
Seiko, i wanted to rename the folder where im saving all the samples that relate to one 'beat' / set of sequences.
Basically im creating a new folder for each new track/song im making. Saving all the sequences relating to that song in that folder. The songs contain sets of samples created using my synth so a sample program has been created which i save i. The same folder so everything, other than all the other sample programs (drum kits etc) are together in one place for easy loading and general organisation.
I wanted to rename so as each one is clearly labelled.

Say for example im working on two songs, have them both loaded up, but both have seperate sample programs called Program 1 then surely i cant load both up at the same time.
If these are noobish questions as somebody put then i dont give a shit, im new to the mpc and everything needs learning before you know it, and i know plenty thanks all the same.
As far as me doing something that may be causing the problems, haha, thats a poor joke, try again. Im knew to the machine but know what ive done so far is nothing that would cause these problems, i have a shed load of electronics and never have any trouble with any of it.
Take a look around the forum, there's others who sound as fustrated as ive been with this machine, or is that down to their stupidity too? Haha. Some people.



Livepsky
By LivePsy Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:05 am
Dave, if you are new to the MPC then you can't know if things you are doing are likely to cause a problem. You may not be savings things in the best way, you may be unknowingly putting lots of hidden files on your MPC drive if you connect a computer, you may loading samples which cause problems. Whatever it is, you need to isolate things down to a known working state. That means doing something different to the steps you have been doing in the past, even if you're not making music for a while.

Consider the condition your MPC came in with nothing connected but the power, headphones and the factory autoload songs. Does that work? If you have connected a computer, inserted a CF card, loaded samples to the hard drive, changed any MIDI/SYNC or OTHER settings, reflashed the firmware with any version of the OS - all these things could be triggering your problems. Don't underestimate the effects of poor mains power supply or (really desperate here) EM interference from other equipment. Just turn it on, let it load the factory songs and press play or stop. If this doesn't work for 30 minutes, then I'd say the unit is faulty. But if you have done any of the changes I mentioned above you can't be sure.

Personally, I would have given up ages ago if it was my MPC. But I believe you are repeating the same procedures with each unit and it causes problems.

Just my opinion,
B