do any mpcs have a "scratch"effect?

Ive been using a zoom sampletrak for years now, looking around the studio I could probably ditch enough gear to afford mpc500 or 2000. but i really like the zoom scratch effect, i don't think id have too much use for a sampler without one. but a decent sequencer, more pads, more time is obviously a tempting upgrade.


also, which mpcs would you say are in the $500 range used?

Q link sliders can be used to mimic some scratching effects, I believe there's a video on youtube with someone doing this on a MPC1000.

Hi,

I did a couple of clips on YouTube using the MPC 500 scratch effect (combo of note tuning on the fader and note-on on a pad) if that helps.

http://www.youtube.com/lamptonworm

Cheers,
LW.

wow thanks for sharing! that soudns great. mpc500 seems like the one for me then. the zoom scratch goes backwards but that doesn't really change much as the end result.

boney wrote:wow thanks for sharing! that soudns great. mpc500 seems like the one for me then. the zoom scratch goes backwards but that doesn't really change much as the end result.

A solution would be to copy and reverse the sample to other pads.

boney wrote:wow thanks for sharing! that soudns great. mpc500 seems like the one for me then. the zoom scratch goes backwards but that doesn't really change much as the end result.

All current MPCs can do this, in fact the MPC500 has the most limited Q link options (only 1 q slider for a start) - the MPC1000 has 2, the 5000 has 4, plus 8 assignable q-dials. The video above shows assigning tuning to the slider, but you can try other stuff like filter, volume, attack, pan, fx send etc, all giving different types of effect. The more sliders you have, the more different things you can throw into your performance.

Ill-Green wrote:

boney wrote:wow thanks for sharing! that soudns great. mpc500 seems like the one for me then. the zoom scratch goes backwards but that doesn't really change much as the end result.

A solution would be to copy and reverse the sample to other pads.

that would probably work out better than the zoom

MPC-Tutor wrote:

boney wrote:wow thanks for sharing! that soudns great. mpc500 seems like the one for me then. the zoom scratch goes backwards but that doesn't really change much as the end result.

All current MPCs can do this, in fact the MPC500 has the most limited Q link options (only 1 q slider for a start) - the MPC1000 has 2, the 5000 has 4, plus 8 assignable q-dials. The video above shows assigning tuning to the slider, but you can try other stuff like filter, volume, attack, pan, fx send etc, all giving different types of effect. The more sliders you have, the more different things you can throw into your performance.

keeps getting better and better, i think im just gonna go for the longest sampling time available, whatever comes my way for $500

boney wrote:keeps getting better and better, i think im just gonna go for the longest sampling time available, whatever comes my way for $500

MPC500/1000/2500 all max out at the same 128MB RAM, so for $500 you may squeeze in a second hand 1000, which is the better machine compared to the 500, plus has the option of upgrading to a superior third party OS (JJ), which the 500 doesn't.

why not just get some turntables and sample them?

emceewhiterabbit wrote:why not just get some turntables and sample them?

It's not the same. I just got a Yamaha SU200 - smallish, battery-powered sampler with surprisingly useful (in a lo-fi kind of way) fx, including scratch - there's even a ribbon controller for scratching (or other fx control). Does it sound like the real thing? No way. But it is an interesting sonic option...

Jungleman wrote:

emceewhiterabbit wrote:why not just get some turntables and sample them?

It's not the same. I just got a Yamaha SU200 - smallish, battery-powered sampler with surprisingly useful (in a lo-fi kind of way) fx, including scratch - there's even a ribbon controller for scratching (or other fx control). Does it sound like the real thing? No way. But it is an interesting sonic option...

you're right. get the right sample and use the q-link it will produce a different result.

i wonder: has anyone sampled a scratch from vinyl then used the q link in correlation to it?

ok. this is some cutting edge shit right here.

Serato CD control timecode can be read by this free program: http://www.mixxx.org/
serato CD control wavs are available online (for burning onto cds).

what if you were to take that .wav, copy it and reverse the copy, and then load both files into the mpc?

now play the MPC into mixxx
the timecode will play your mp3 or wav file
the reverse timecode will play your mp3 or wave file backwards.
now you can use the qlinks to pitch up and down the sampled timecode.

this is not a perfect system yet but it is something.

Okay, got the MPC and Mixxx to function together using the serato control wav (forward and reverse wavs set to note on). Had to cut down the wavs a bit so it would fit into the MPC, but everything works fine. I can't get the scratching sound out of it yet but maybe someone who is more experienced with DJ software and MPC scatching can finangle it just right.

Good stuff Nym, glad you're back.

wow, you move FAST. good work.
did you try playing the samples at different tunes?
or using the qlink to change the tune in realtime?
i wonder the limitation here.
there's definitely better control surfaces than qlinks for scratching but this is just a start.
would be a great alternative mpc os to specifically control the playback rate of these files.
perhaps another revenue opportunity for JJ or a JJ-like feller

Yep, qlinks are fully functional with the control wavs. Everything works like you would expect it to. I'll mess with it some more later today, I just wanted to quickly make sure this works and give the green light for others to try and experiment.

Even if the scratching sounds can't be accomplished with this method, there are still some interesting things that might be possible with this. For example, if you use the extra outs of the MPC you can in effect have two "decks" hooked up to Mixxx and control both sounds with 4 pads. Just something to consider. I'm sure there is a lot more but I have no idea as I've never messed with DJ software before.