studio toys

easy mpc freaks, was seein what you guys thought were the best "toy" sound sources or genuine toys to use for makin beats. Speak and spell and monotron excluded. Synths, modules, pre amps, mics whatever you dudes can think of. A personal fave is to feedback a 1 pound mic in front of a speaker to get serious feedback and then have my hats gate it to get a nice rythm track or filter it, pitch it and use it as the basis for a synth. Or i record an untuned tv channel and apply an envelope and filter to it for a synth snare

any git pedals its like peper salt the spice,.git amps use a reamp box to match load then mic it. put the git amp on the thrid fl of a tripple decca hall way the put a mic on the first fl instant reverb. creative recording techs are endless. but move some real air for the sound that sound we look for when we sample. MOVE AIR

jurrell wrote: record an untuned tv channel and apply an envelope and filter to it for a synth snare

that sounds like a great idea...

also, one thing that is kind of cool is checking out some foley room techniques used by various foley room artists for some of the sounds... for example, the sound of cracking celery sticks (sometimes on the counter corner) is sometimes used to emulate the sound of breaking bones.... however things like that make good percussive sounds.

i once recorded an wiffle ball bat hitting a rolled up rug. used it as snare on a few tracks. but anything sounds cool spiting out an sp 1200.

pcise77 wrote:i once recorded an wiffle ball bat hitting a rolled up rug. used it as snare on a few tracks. but anything sounds cool spiting out an sp 1200.

is that a hollow plastic baseball bat? as for the sp 1200.... I bet.

lovin it, yea i use guitar pedals on aux's quite often, bang a tuner on mps outs for gettin the notes of long open sounds. Also on another topic if i got the boys round for a smoke a leave the mic recordin without em knowin then chop out any usable quotes.

Damn, no one mentioned the Casio VL Tone..the hottest kids synth hahah..no really, you can even program the synth part (ADSR envelope, LFO etc) by entering numbers into it's calculator

Also like using toy xylophones and it's handy to have a lame portable radio to hand too...either for use as white noise generator on a analogue synth that don't have it or to record some warbling MW shit haha

VL Tone piano preset

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Gv3EFw5Jc

Major props on the vid...that VL sounds great.

vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Gv3EFw5Jc

Jamming and making tunes on an analogue desk, dropping channels in and out and tweaking the sends, etc is how I roll too.
OTB all the way for me.
Good vid. Subbed

And on-topic... I got a few Commodore 64's, a Gameboy w/ LSDJ and a modded voice-changer toy in the arsenal.

Thanks y'all

Man I've wanted a C64 again for a while, Messiah looks amazing...Wish that was out when I had my C64 when I was a kid hahah

I also need to bend my Speak+Spell

vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:Thanks y'all

Man I've wanted a C64 again for a while, Messiah looks amazing...Wish that was out when I had my C64 when I was a kid hahah

I also need to bend my Speak+Spell

I've never used Mssiah actually. I use trackers (Sid Duzz It) a couple of midi progs and sometimes sync up (sync24) Prophet64 with a serial interface cable I knocked up.

If anyone does decide to dabble with the c64 I highly recommend getting a http://www.1541ultimate.net/content/index.php. Sooo good compared to using the old floppies

Ahh... another one of my toys is an Amiga 1200 with a GVP DSS8+ 8 bit sampler. Maaan I can get some nice lo-fi sounds outta that quick and easily I have it all hooked up to my soundcard and desk, ready for sampling stuff through it. There is also a sampler program called 'Midi In' where I load and keymap some sounds then sequence them with my mpc. Obv I also have an Amiga midi adapter to achieve this. I've always wanted an SP1200, but this is my cheap way of getting those nice crunchy, ringing samples.

man I was gonna snag an lsdj but didn't make the auction end time due to being out of town... It was one of those loses that had me feeling like a really missed out. What do you think of that piece of kit?

I wish they had something like that for the genesis...

debauch, no joke, a Yamaha TX81Z is almost perfectly a Gensis sound system in hardware form.

The Genesis soundchip was a yamaha, 4 op fm synth (plus sample channel). I think 4 or 6 part multitimbral.
The TX is also a yamaha 4 op fm synth, 8 part multitimbral.

You can really tell the sonic similarities with a Genesis when programming the TX. All your tracks sound like golden axe.

In regards to a gameboy, I have never used LSDJ, but can't you get the ROM and run it in an emulator? I know, I know...

I use NanoLoop, and this thing makes sounds really close to NanoLoop sounds:
http://www.drpetter.se/project_sfxr.html

LSDJ is cool. I haven't pulled it out in a while mainly because I've been meaning to make a midi interface for it for ages and I've been watching my time-sinks lately. I'll bring it out again.
Make sure you like the sound before you buy. Chiptune sounds aint everyone's cuppa tea

You can download a demo here and use it in an emulator:

http://www.littlesounddj.com/lsd/latest/

I've got the full version. The guy who made it only asks for a minimum $2 donation for the full version. He deserves it too.. he's done a great job.

nogginj wrote:All your tracks sound like golden axe.

fuc#ing score! that is the goal... I have sampled some of the harsh metalic-tin low notes from the genesis for projects in the past... I didn't know yamaha had a synth based on the same or a similar chip. (I admit I haven't done research much on it though) I always just assumed the DX series probably had something close.

Yeah you really need to be into those types of sounds... I wouldn't use those for every song, but for sure I would sneak it in here and there. I have emulators and trackers, I have tried making some simple sequences on nerdtrackerii and things like that but it is very time consuming to learn. I was thinking about maybe some day getting the mod kit for the NES toaster that allows you to flash carts so essentially I could with some time replace music in some games with my own... Problem is I am not fast at programming anything using trackers and I am not a coder so the job would take forever... emulators at least make testing easier even if actual sound differs on the real NES hardware.... the same is true especially when it comes to genesis games.

I will take a look at the link(s) and do some research on that yamaha module...


p.s. I believe the sample capacity on a genesis maxes out around 40-45 seconds which would actually take up the entire cart. I saw a video with a guy doing that I believe with either a cart flasher or an everdrive. it was pretty grimey.