Swing not working on 16th notes

My 5k isn't applying swing when I record in 16th notes. I have to use 1/8 notes to hear a difference in sound, and I have to then switch to 16th notes AFTER recording in 1/8th's to see the difference in grid edit. If that wasn't worse enough, to take off the swing I just can't simply put it back to 50%, I have to manually move the notes. Basically, my MPC will have nothing to do with swing while on 16th notes. I've re-installed O.S. 1, then re-installed O.S. 2 again, and no change.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any suggestions?

I guess not... Apparently I'll have to send an email to Akai, but I'm sure that won't do much... especially since I bought it used.

If your swing is working than your mpc is fine. Hit "T.C" while grid edit is stopped and change the "note Value" to something that is in line to what you are doing, just try them all until you can hear a difference. Thats what I love about the mp is that every note can have different swing unlike every soft seqencer that i've tried. MP's swing is insane, nothing comes close

onloadx2 wrote:If your swing is working than your mpc is fine. Hit "T.C" while grid edit is stopped and change the "note Value" to something that is in line to what you are doing, just try them all until you can hear a difference. Thats what I love about the mp is that every note can have different swing unlike every soft seqencer that i've tried. MP's swing is insane, nothing comes close

That's the thing, it's not working with what is in line to what I'm doing... Hence the title, "Swing not working on 16th notes".
I think you need to re-read my post. I can get the swing to work, but I have to record in 1/8th notes first, then change to 16th notes.
Once I get it to swing on 16th notes, I must manually move the notes if I want to adjust or take the swing off.

Not trying to be funny but are you sure you understand how the TC functions and the Strength work on the 5k?
What you are describing just doesn't sound right.
How but giving a description of what you are trying to do and list the steps you are using in your attempt.

Hopefully it's user error if not you may need service.

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EZBPmf1Qh0

If this is normal, I'm going to slap myself.

Your not giving it anything to swing.

The reason you hear the difference when you change from 16th to 8th is because you are cutting the note interval in half.

Try playing a real rhythm with the hats at 16 and you should clearly hear the difference the swing setting will make.

Also one more note of interest if you are at 160 because you are trying to do double tempo your measures should be 8/4.

Hmmmmm.................I will say 66% to 75% swing turns into triplets. Thats normal. Maybe the window settings are too high? You have the window at 100%

Oh, and swing works different in double time. First try the quantize at normal time. How about half-time....wink wink....

I've tried playing a real rhythm, I've tried adjusting the settings, and I've tried in half-time; swing still has no effect on 16th notes.

You know, I have never really noticed much of a difference with 16th straight hi-hat notes on any mpc or sequencer. Youre better gauging the swing with syncopated hi-hats. Try it? Maybe even 32nd straight notes.

I'll say it one more time, give it something to swing.
Do a little research on what swing, shuffle etc is based on or trying to make happen and maybe you'll understand why your not seeing a difference.

Seems like swing and triplets aren't fully understood by many MP users, not just the OP.

Sovereign wrote:Your not giving it anything to swing.

The reason you hear the difference when you change from 16th to 8th is because you are cutting the note interval in half.

Try playing a real rhythm with the hats at 16 and you should clearly hear the difference the swing setting will make.

Also one more note of interest if you are at 160 because you are trying to do double tempo your measures should be 8/4.

Guy, for somebody who told the op he had to change measure to use double time........ Youre quite sure of yourself.

Make sure the undo button is lit after you do a TC change. That's how u know it has been applied. You have one undo to get back to the previous state. But you should also be able to do that with the TC in the menu.

btw. Does the TC works when using 16th note with the noterepeat button? And when selecting a pad instead of ALL it still doesn't swing? Do you have swing on other signatures? (Changing from 16th to 8th has nothing to do with swing/shuffle in MPC sence.)

If not i'm afraid it's a defect on your 5000.

Try it in regular time.