Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By CoinUp! Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:01 am
jellyjim wrote:
envisionelec wrote:I just happen to be quite open about the process because I was a curious kid trying to learn about how products were designed, manufactured and distributed. Sure, I was a big dork - but being a resourceful dork pays well. ;)


Yes! That's why I'm asking. I'm trying to find out the same things! I'm prototyping some electronic musical instruments at the moment but I just don't know enough on the business side. Market size and pricing are two of my biggest concerns. I'll probably go the DIY route and just see who bites. If interest is significant then perhaps I can think about larger runs. I've been very inspired by the MeeBlip project.



Let me guess! The Beat Thang?
By concepts Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:39 pm
envisionelec wrote:
concepts wrote:
envisionelec wrote:
We did think of that - but we just don't like making it "half way".

So, we decided to go with a 256x64 LCD and justify the data towards the center of the screen. It is readily available and will keep the cost low.


you might want to run a test with one centered and one with two pixels cut off on the right side. the mpc uses a shadow theme and so i think you can get away with it on that side.


With 256, we have 8 more than necessary. We'll just center 'er up, dropping 4 off each side and two each off the bottom and top. You'll never know the difference!



correct, i miss read the number. great news, even better work, and i cant wait. thank you
By in_effekt Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:19 pm
envisionelec wrote:http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/ ... 132200.jpg


Great work guys! I'm sure your efforts will be much appreciated by 2k/xl crowd. Though the screen of my 2kxl is still in good shape, I will be buying your display as soon as it will become available, just to be on a safe side.
By envisionelec Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:53 pm
New displays arrive this week. However, we are testing for visual and electrical performance, only.

We are ordering a semi-custom display with the different chipset which is set to arrive in 6-8 weeks. It will give us the ability to lower the cost by integrating some of our functionality into the main PCB. During this time, we will be forging ahead with the manufacturing aspect.
By envisionelec Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:10 pm
So let's talk about how much this is going to cost...

The new LCD Display will be $159 each.
VGA Display Adapter (VDA) $189 standalone or $99 with purchase of the LCD*.

The LCD consists of a custom module with off the shelf electronics. Attached to the LCD is our "backpack" translation module which is where the magic happens. Both the LCD and our module together are the same size/thickness as the original Akai LCD and will fit perfectly in the place of the original.

Connections are made via a 19 pin ribbon cable (included and available separately for replacements). The LCD modules are sourced from Taiwan, but the translation module is made in the USA. Programming and final QA testing is also done in USA.

The VDA will mount in the blanking cover where the SMPTE IN/OUT option is located. If your 2000 has the SMPTE IN/OUT option OR if you have a 2kXL, you will need to punch a D-Sub hole, or otherwise run a VGA cable inside the unit.

* The VDA is driven by our translator, exclusively. The order site will ask you if you have already purchased the LCD, so you don't double-purchase the translator. Conversely, the VDA must have the translator to function, so the stand-alone version has the same board in the kit. If you decide to purchase the LCD later, you can request that it is shipped without the translator and configure it yourself. It will require good soldering skills (nothing too hard) if you choose to DIY. Otherwise, you can ship the translator back to us for credit towards the new LCD and we will put them together.
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By concepts Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:10 pm
envisionelec wrote:A new pre-order site will be put up to help defray the manufacturing costs during the first few weeks of release. The site will be announced in a few days and it will be open for business shortly after.



does this mean its going to be cheaper if we buy later or if we buy as soon as it releases. thanks
By JVC Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:50 pm
Wow, this is really happening... It almost feels like a historic event to me! Congratulations on success! I really want to see the demo of the LCD screen, by the way.
By envisionelec Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:48 pm
JVC wrote:Wow, this is really happening... It almost feels like a historic event to me! Congratulations on success! I really want to see the demo of the LCD screen, by the way.


There is a video of the "8-pixels short" display. I can post it tonight. The new display is the same - except it displays ALL the data. The video is of my engineer spinning the jog wheel as fast as he can to watch the update rate. The glitches on the screen are due to data crosstalk. We built a new prototyping PCB that completely cleaned that up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atrhLX67U_o
By JVC Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:31 am
envisionelec wrote:
JVC wrote:Wow, this is really happening... It almost feels like a historic event to me! Congratulations on success! I really want to see the demo of the LCD screen, by the way.


There is a video of the "8-pixels short" display. I can post it tonight. The new display is the same - except it displays ALL the data. The video is of my engineer spinning the jog wheel as fast as he can to watch the update rate. The glitches on the screen are due to data crosstalk. We built a new prototyping PCB that completely cleaned that up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atrhLX67U_o

I've just check the video clip. Wow... Impressive...
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By jazzbee Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:07 pm
CoinUp! wrote:So that other dude who spend years and money on new lcd 2000 screen is out?


By the looks of things he's flopped but in his defence he does have a few months to get his shit straight.

Unlike this dude:

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By mpc_fanatic Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:05 am
lightsleeper wrote:cant wait for these to be available.