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By beatman Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:44 am
SajjkProds wrote:Hello people!
I'm getting my MPC5000 in a couple of days now
and i was just wondering if there is anything i need to
buy or am i ready to make beats.

My gear:
MPC5000
M-Audio Fast Track
Behringer Xenyx 802
Alesis Point Seven (Inactive monitors that i plug in to an amplifier, so in the end the cables are RCA)
Midi-To-USB Interface.
Mac Pro and PC.

I want to just chop my samples on the computer, put them in the mpc, make the beat and export it right back in to the computer (logic) for mixing.

Am i ready or do i need to buy something else?
A friend of mine told me that i need to get RCA to 4 inc adapters or something like that? Any ideas?

Thanks.



the fact your askin this question means no your not ready to make beats infact your a long way from ready!!!
By daveyP Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:09 am
who says he hasnt got the skills to make music just because he doesnt yet know the MPC. You say he's a long way from ready, well, isn't he just asking about the things he doesnt yet know so he then does, and can then get on with making music.
Spread your knowledge and help the guy out with some simple advice, he may be used to recording great music with completely different equipment and now wants to learn how to set up and use the gear he's listed.
By Floating Fluids Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:57 pm
I got an good example for what you can do with what kind of gear...

check out king i divine - mpc 1000
check out damu the fudgemonk - mpc 2000
check out bla bla bla...

check out my ep http://www.floatingfluids.bandcamp.com
It´s about having little equipment and doing some beats with only it.
By daveyP Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:27 pm
haha, any excuse for a plug hu, but i think the guy is after set up advice. I agree that doing the best you can with minimal set ups is cool but i think he knows what he wants to do but just needs some advice of how to connect it all all from those who know....but are reluctant to tell.

haha

knowledge is power hey
By daveyP Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:16 pm
Floating Fluids, i dont blame you. I'll seek you out on bandcamp. Im on there too. Gonna fit it full of stuff by the end of this year.

You could sit down with the music shop guy but if he's like me he would have bought his gear from the internet in which case good Google has to suffice. Google finds a million and one things for you but but sometimes, and there are those sometimesis, sometimes theres just not one thing on the whole internet of what youre trying to find. Porn isnt one of them!
By Floating Fluids Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:02 pm
Ok, whatever. I am also smart enough to buy used gear from the net.
But you buy this stuff here:

MPC5000
M-Audio Fast Track
Behringer Xenyx 802
Alesis Point Seven (Inactive monitors that i plug in to an amplifier, so in the end the cables are RCA)
Midi-To-USB Interface.
Mac Pro and PC.

And afterwards you think about the connections and cables? Why do you buy that stuff? If you dont know where to get sound from and where to put it... why would you buy that stuff?

I would´ve informed myself a bit more before paying somebody for something i might not need in the end. and dude.... you can google stuff like that. specially proaudio/audio.... the passion we all share. you can get pooptons of informations about cables etc... check out wikipedia fr instance. different cables... no problemo ;)
By daveyP Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:14 pm
Fluid, it isnt me asking the question. I see what you mean, yeah you research on the equipment before buying to see if it does what you intend to do with it. If he doesnt have a clue what does what and what plugs into what then fair enough sounds like he's gone overboard on the purchases before learning some stuff. No doubt you can google the cabling he's asking about but im just saying there are some things that seem impossible to find when they seem like the most obvious of thing to be at least somewhere on the interweb.

I found it difficult finding out the basic setup of an audio interface and the different types for a PC. Still not sure which to buy, seems obvious but google that and there's just a sea of marketing and little basic info on them. That was my point. Or maybe the guy does have no clue about what he's bough and is making little effort. Who knows other than him.
By moyphee Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:18 pm
daveyP wrote:If he doesnt have a clue what does what and what plugs into what then fair enough sounds like he's gone overboard on the purchases before learning some stuff.

+1

No matter , the gear doesn't create on it's own. You can buy all of the gear you want. Without skill, experience, and talent the end result is still nauseating audio garbage.

Need proof?!? Check the pricey setup (albeit redundant several times over) then watch all 5 videos to what comes out of it!

http://www.youtube.com/user/caprice022
By daveyP Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:32 pm
I agree. But even those with the most talent may require some guide in using new equipment, just watch the video of rza talking about when he first got an mv, he couldnt produce shit on it because he needed a few basic pointers from those who knew. The most talented piano player may not know shit about how to record or loop a melody with studio equipement if theyve never dont it before, doesnt take away from their talent. But i see your point, dont get me wrong.
The best scientists in the world had to study to become what they are.
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By krush777 Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:34 pm
daveyP wrote:I agree. But even those with the most talent may require some guide in using new equipment, just watch the video of rza talking about when he first got an mv, he couldnt produce **** on it because he needed a few basic pointers from those who knew. The most talented piano player may not know **** about how to record or loop a melody with studio equipement if theyve never dont it before, doesnt take away from their talent. But i see your point, dont get me wrong.
The best scientists in the world had to study to become what they are.


This is somewhat true. The problem is that far too many people are willing to spend their MONEY in an attempt to avoid spending their TIME on their craft. When I started doing this with two tape decks, I spent hours learning to work around the limitations of that set-up. Those hours spent have served me well. Technology gives us devices with a ton of features for low prices. It is the spending of TIME that will show us what features we will need now and which can wait until later. Asking a question like "am I ready to make beats, this is what I bought" says to me that the person hasn't explored their talent or potential yet. The real question should be, "How can I utilize these tool to enhance my beatmaking", which is what RZA as eluding to.
By daveyP Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:50 pm
I fully agree. I started with a tascam porta 7. After the initial buz of recording two rage against the machine style funky guitar run riffs seperately and hearing them back on two channels panned hard right and hard left i thought that was amazing and was the start of a hell of a lot of recording on that little beast of a machine. I love working around limitations, parameters etc, so much so last year i went back to the dusty tascam, and recorded a bunch of stuff on it. It was a reminder of how far things have come with the availablity of digital today. I learned the foundations of recording on that tascam.
I think you develope your own recognisable sound to some extent too from learning your own way of using the equipment youve got. So yeah, maybe he has invested in a bit too much gear and hasnt any particular plan of what he wants to do. **** knows.
One thing im still stumpted on is audio interfaces, i still have no clue which one i should get for use with Reason on the mac.
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By krush777 Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:52 pm
moyphee wrote:
daveyP wrote:If he doesnt have a clue what does what and what plugs into what then fair enough sounds like he's gone overboard on the purchases before learning some stuff.

+1

No matter , the gear doesn't create on it's own. You can buy all of the gear you want. Without skill, experience, and talent the end result is still nauseating audio garbage.

Need proof?!? Check the pricey setup (albeit redundant several times over) then watch all 5 videos to what comes out of it!

http://www.youtube.com/user/caprice022



@ moyphee

I will say that I do like that fact that this guy is actually using his gear to make music. He obviously has some dough, but he IS creating with his gear. His tracks will only get better and better.
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