To swing or not to swing?

Think one of the worst things a musician/producer can do, is to force his music into a template just in order to please some dj out there who dont know how to mix it.. If the music wont suffer, then fine, do it, no point in having a certain timing if it doesnt add anything.. But if the timing is a part of it, then basically, you are killing your music just to please a dj.. And there are plenty of great dj's that would know what to do, no matter the timing.. So i dont really understand why someone would compromise their music like that.. Unless itst for the reason i mentioned

I understand there is a difference between swing and unquantized mess.

so in that case swing is amazing, just ask Teddy Riley

You can swing with ur quantize off or on. Your beats can sound off even with TC on.
How many times have you read the question: "How come my drums sound off eventhough I have TC on?"
Your Beats can sound on point, even with TC off.. If you have rythm that is.

What do you mean by swing? do you mean the swing setting in the TC screen?
Or do you mean actuall musical "swing"?
Swing dosn't mean that anything is "off".
Beats that don't "swing" at all?? How's that gonna make ur head nod??? "on" or "off"???
A lotta peolpe don't seam to understand what the swing setting actually does, How it influences the quantization. For those who don't fully understand, peep this vid. real basic stuff really, but put nicley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBhz7rR4LwE

My 2 cnts:

You alone decide how "loose" you want ur drums to be. Do it to ur own liking.
personally:
If it sounds quantized, it dosn't sound natural to me. If it's too loose, it might sound like you don't really know what ur doing.
But still, I like it messy sometimes..

if quantize is is off and u can play by ears swing prolly aint even required but if u u use quantise cos ur timming is off ur u prefer it then obviosuly the swing becomes a factor

poundaproblem wrote:

Grenozh wrote:It sounds that way to me cause I come from a Dj's perspective,

What about a DJ from the 70's who was blending disco? There was no quantize being that drums were live. A good DJ could blend any record. If the blend is impossible, then its safe to assume you chose the wrong songs to transition into each other.

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+1 Only when mixing electro-like beats you need that straight quantization, in order to get your next-song kicks adding on top of the quitting one. I personally don't even like to change pitch, just like to find songs that go along together and match parts (E.G.: bridge song-1 over intro song-2). But again, I only mix rare-groove/soul/funk/disco/blaxploitation from the '70... not that much of drum-machine beats there.

I don't have any rule for my production thou, some of my beats are quantized with swing on 16th, some are not.