Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By jimmie Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:54 pm
Well, it's definitely easier than before, to play around with the loop as your seq plays, so that's a good thang.

Next, 'loop until release/sustain-only loop'? oO


p.s.
Has anyone noticed this beneficial bug:
set your loop using XFADE but make it so that when you hit pad06 it comes up with the message "Loop length is too short'.
Now go and add some hits of this sample in your seq and play back the seq.
Now, the sample that supposedly is too short for xfade actually uses xfade.
This is good, but why the message in TRIM?
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By arebee Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:23 pm
exactly what i was thinkin,

but not super simple, cos, if u setup a qlink, it would need a target, so i was reckoning, jj might be able to setup :-

"qlink :loop pos" "target : sampleXX" or "target : all (samples in the prog)" or "target : (samples in the track)" or something along these lines.

and as with any qlink these days in JJOS2XL, the user has to lay down a recording session one qlink fader at a time anyway, so then the user could switch the qlink setup to another sample and go on like this recording mad loop pos stuff. as far as the lil' fker can handle it. ;)

ive posted JJ for it, but i guess he'll be mad busy.
By elmacaco Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:28 pm
Loop Lock OH YEAH!!!!

That's one of the things I loved about the 2000. Makes break chopping so easy. Still a little ways to go to get the Ensoniq Transwave action happening, but not too much.

So Q link to Loop start, Loop End, Loop length, and loop position should be added.

What would also be great, but I'm not holding my breath, is LFO tmodulation of Loop position, loop start, loop end, and loop length, and Envelope modulation of the same. The ASR-10 only lets you do one of the previous, only one modulation source for wave mod, and that would be fine too, LFO or ENV, but I think Q link might be best. Now if we could only record multiple Q Link data onto one track!

Transwaves are the only thing that makes me think I want an ASR 10 again, if I could fake em with the MPC then I'll be a happy addict.

Thanks JJ!!!
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By mp3 Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:45 pm
elmacaco wrote:So Q link to Loop start, Loop End, Loop length, and loop position should be added.


You read my mind.

Also agree about the ASR. Transwaves and synthesize loop... Those are the main things I love about the ASR, but not the only ones. Not by a country mile.

Have you tried using Q-Link to NDC Chop? You can do some distinctly ASRish stuff with that.

Try this: chop up a wav file using NDC, elongate the end point of each of your chops, assign the first chop to a pad, program 32nd notes (or faster) for that pad into the sequencer. Press play, and play with the q-link to chop and the tempo.

That's my secret sauce right there. :lol:
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By mp3 Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:51 pm
arebee wrote:exactly what i was thinkin,

but not super simple, cos, if u setup a qlink, it would need a target,


Not really, it could just affect the whole track like the rest of the q-links. If you wanna q-link a certain sample, just move it to another track and do it there.
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By arebee Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:44 pm
thing is tho', if u use whole track - it would sound good, that was my first thoughts, but it would work best in this way if the samples were of similar sizes. yet these things tend to just sound cool regardless of any specific structure or order predefined, its mostly after a bit of fun that these treatments get to do their best. so really mp3 u are right. i'd still like the idea of a choice of 'target' cos then the craft can be more tailored to the best situation. 'whole track', 'one sample', 'one program', anything would be a benefit - haha - beggers cant be choosers, yet JJ bucks that trend frequently.

seriousy tho',
ideally, any controller/qlink would push the loop start position from the start (at qlink val=0) thru the sample to the end (at qlink value=127) so that the transwaves so very coveted by guys up here (post ensoniqs), would be possible in many ways.

secondly - i would love this above, combined with second controller/qlink tied to the loop size, so that the loop can be moved thru the sample (above method),while the loop size would be increased decreased by the movements in the second controller.

lovely stuff. im sure its on its way, JJ's a real feind for this shite its obvious!
By rarara Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:31 pm
mp3 wrote:
elmacaco wrote:So Q link to Loop start, Loop End, Loop length, and loop position should be added.


You read my mind.

Also agree about the ASR. Transwaves and synthesize loop... Those are the main things I love about the ASR, but not the only ones. Not by a country mile.

Have you tried using Q-Link to NDC Chop? You can do some distinctly ASRish stuff with that.

Try this: chop up a wav file using NDC, elongate the end point of each of your chops, assign the first chop to a pad, program 32nd notes (or faster) for that pad into the sequencer. Press play, and play with the q-link to chop and the tempo.

That's my secret sauce right there. :lol:

what do you mean by "elongate the end point of each of your chops"?
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By arebee Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:46 pm
rarara wrote:
mp3 wrote:
elmacaco wrote:So Q link to Loop start, Loop End, Loop length, and loop position should be added.


You read my mind.

Also agree about the ASR. Transwaves and synthesize loop... Those are the main things I love about the ASR, but not the only ones. Not by a country mile.

Have you tried using Q-Link to NDC Chop? You can do some distinctly ASRish stuff with that.

Try this: chop up a wav file using NDC, elongate the end point of each of your chops, assign the first chop to a pad, program 32nd notes (or faster) for that pad into the sequencer. Press play, and play with the q-link to chop and the tempo.

That's my secret sauce right there. :lol:

what do you mean by "elongate the end point of each of your chops"?


it may be referring to the 'effect' of adding an extended 'end' to the last part of each slice, so that the gap that would have existed is virtually removed by the smearing of the previous tail end . so it gives a smoother more fluid way to space out slices that would sound stilted without it, jj has a function that lets u set the amount this occurs.
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By mp3 Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:45 pm
rarara wrote:what do you mean by "elongate the end point of each of your chops"?

If you chop non-destructively (NDC), then you can change the start and end points of the chops. What I'm saying is change the endpoints to make the chops larger. I'm not referring to the 'release' function found in destructive chopping.
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By arebee Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:30 pm
ah , better to shut my ass up.

;(

;)))