SP1200

Sorry just tryin to help but if you don't get it then you wont get it....its pretty easy though.......

Stop it with the condescending please. As I said I did get it, you obviously didnt.

Kalei

Every hardware and software program I have has it's own sound.

A beat from FL will sound different in the 4000.

Sonar sounds wamer than Logic.
I have taken songs from one program to the other.


Producers will tell you all the MPC's sound different.

So you really cant argue that the SP 1200 samples will sound different on any machine.

They all have a unique sound.

Kalei, you definately got the idea of what my man was saying about the
random white noise generation, whereas, with 96k being near-transparent, and sampling a repeated trigger 4 or 5 times to catch the nuances of each,
I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. But after all that, I would start to wonder, what's the point of doing all that? If you want to get some sp samples becuase you don't own onw, that's a fantastic idea. If not, that's kind of spending time sampling and cutting when you don't need to, and you could be making music. Like I said, my preference is to use each machine for it's own sound. But, your persistance leads me to ask another question about the 4000 itself. Can you use multiple sampling rates in a program or project, like say, one sample is 16bit 44.1, and another is sampled at 96k 24bit? Or is it, you would have to start in a master bit rate and then resample the ones you wanna change?

The whole point (for me anyway) of sampling the sp1200 would be to get the flexiblity and the huge sampling time that the 4000 has but the "sound" the sp1200 has. No I dont own a sp1200, thats also why Im asking all this, if it were without a doubt possible to get that sound but "into" the 4000, I could see myself buying a sp1200 just to sample it, not slaving it via midi etc but kinda like an external sound processor.

I havent tried using mixed bit/khz files in one project but I read about that some time ago and if I remember correctly I think its possible.

Kalei

Dogs, I would say, if you want to jack some sounds and keep em for the 4000, then you have no other option that to sample the sp. If, however, you got dough like that, then of course it's better to have the real thing.
If you do get it though, midi that joint up and use it for what it is. Dam man, the sequencer is terrible, but sometimes I use it just so I can slap those crappy buttons around!

I've always wanted an SP,but i got no extra money for that (and when i'll got some in my hands i'll spent them to buy an mpc3000,the greatest-designed MPC ever!).BUT: Through my years on makin' beats & producin' i finally found a solution to emulate drums sound grimey.HOW: Not with resampling cause i think that,yes,you can get the sound result you want (eg 26040 khz,sp1200's rate),but it will be digitally processed,so you won't get the exact sound result you want (and i'm talkin' to those who have very probe ears).SO: I sample all my drums to my first sample ever,the Yamaha SU-10 (I'm bangin' it since i was 14)in a low quality that serves nothing but dirty,punchy drums.Than i sample them in my 4K and i start bangin'.It's not such a difficult or complicated tip but it works for me! Peace

good debate going on. i pretty much figured out the machine. its pretty tight, but im not feeling the sequencer. so i have been sequencing with the 4000. as for recording, when i setup my protools again, then ill just run the 8 outs directly into the 001, and adat out of the 4000 for the rest of the channels. on a semi related topic, how many people do you guy think are still using the sp-1200 as a VERY important pert of their setup? i dont think i would be using it that much, but i will tool around with it and give it a go.

Not a indespensible part of my setup, but it makes a difference.
I would say, because I get board of the same sounds very easily, I can always fire that thing up to breath some life in. I pretty much have stopped looking for commercially avaiable drum disks. I have to say in my opinion, almost every disk i've heard that people make for the mpc to sell, is trash. They are throwaway sounds that I could have outdone when I had just started. So, any way to get drum sounds from different machines is ok by me...