2000XL or 1000

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Re: 2000XL or 1000

By kneebone77 Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:55 am
elektrofone wrote:P.S. as an idea :
what if we all run some easy sound comparison test
on here that everyone with MPC60/3000/2000/2000XL/4000/1000/25000
samples the same "clean" sample loop
into their MPC's and posts on here
to compare the sound coloration, etc?
whould that be possible?


This idea has been thrown out there before. Problem is everyone has different sound cards which introduce yet another A/D stage of variable...

Re: 2000XL or 1000

By jazzroom Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:57 am
The Grublet wrote:i own them both.


its about quality of sound...

what you put in to the xl, you get out.


the 1000 digitizes the **** out of the sound. its harsh, ringy, and when you knock it down, you end up with something sounding like it was produced on frootyloops anyway.

the 1000 does not represent the lows well whatsoever, i dont care what anyone says

the filters, although various, do not do justice to the sound like the xl one band does.


you do have to work a little more on the xl, and yes, it should eventually be paired wiht a minimum of an 8 track mixing board... but the 1000, just does not sound accurate to me ( but i make hip hop )


So u do most of your production work on 2kXl?
so what are you using the 1K for.. or you use them both at the same time... whats your workflow?
could u please post same loop sampled straight into 2KXL and 1000 on here - would be great to hear .. as i know noone around with older MPC's to compare?
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Re: 2000XL or 1000

By The Grublet Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:59 am
i could do the 1, 2, 3. 5 test... dont own a 4... also s6000, eps 16, s2000, asr10, mirage, sp404... shit i should.
:oops:

Re: 2000XL or 1000

By jazzroom Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:12 am
The Grublet wrote:i could do the 1, 2, 3. 5 test... dont own a 4... also s6000, eps 16, s2000, asr10, mirage, sp404... **** i should.
:oops:


this is GREAT :) you r da man Grublet - guess lots of ppl on here would b glad to check results!

Re: 2000XL or 1000

By jazzroom Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:52 pm
kneebone77 wrote:
elektrofone wrote:P.S. as an idea :
what if we all run some easy sound comparison test
on here that everyone with MPC60/3000/2000/2000XL/4000/1000/25000
samples the same "clean" sample loop
into their MPC's and posts on here
to compare the sound coloration, etc?
whould that be possible?


This idea has been thrown out there before. Problem is everyone has different sound cards which introduce yet another A/D stage of variable...



I agree, but as some may have 2 machines one vintage and one modern
or even three- they would be best Sound test comparison
professors ;)
anyone?

Re: 2000XL or 1000

By jazzroom Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:01 am
kneebone77 wrote:
elektrofone wrote:P.S. as an idea :
what if we all run some easy sound comparison test
on here that everyone with MPC60/3000/2000/2000XL/4000/1000/25000
samples the same "clean" sample loop
into their MPC's and posts on here
to compare the sound coloration, etc?
whould that be possible?


This idea has been thrown out there before. Problem is everyone has different sound cards which introduce yet another A/D stage of variable...



I agree, but as some may have 2 machines one vintage and one modern
or even three- they would be best Sound test comparison
professors ;)
anyone?
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Re: 2000XL or 1000

By Joidibeats Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:19 pm
The Grublet wrote:i could do the 1, 2, 3. 5 test... dont own a 4... also s6000, eps 16, s2000, asr10, mirage, sp404... **** i should.
:oops:


Do it man! We will make sure Lamp puts it sticky ;) You have so many great equipment you really should do a sound test to each one of them!
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Re: 2000XL or 1000

By fasttrackpimp Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:39 am
I listened to my old 2k next to a buddies 1k and the 2k sounded better to me. The 1k sounded like I just recorded a sample dry into a daw. Just very harsh highs and weak low end compared. The 2k had more warmth and was a little bit muddy. The 2k also had a little bit more punch. I have a 1k now and I like the features, but the sound sucks. You can make the 1k sound alot better if you process the sample before hand in a daw and with alot of other shit before it reaches the 1k, but it still doesn't come out sounding like a 2k at all. That's just my .02.

So here's my opinion:

If you want more features(jj os), a faster machine, don't care about the more transparent digital type sound and don't want to worry about finding parts right now, then the 1k is a good choice. It doesn't feel like it's built aswell, but imo also doesn't feel cheap.

If you want less features, a slower machine, a warmer or colored sound, want to mess with scsi drives, want to eventually have to hunt for replacement parts and want a better built machine, then the 2k/xl is a good choice for you.

Re: 2000XL or 1000

By jazzroom Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:51 am
I dig my 1k with JJOS2XL , and even like the sound( never had other MPC's though)
workflow is great,machine is fast and got 125mb memory - to much to mess with;)

but still look for maybe a little portable audio hardware device to put in the sampling/playback chain to fatten or bitcrash sound before it enters or lives MPC?

got huuge rackmount 4 channel tube preamp - but that's to big and heavy to walk or travel with...

any ideas for a "pocket" sound wamers/lo-fi FX box to carry in MPC bag?
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Re: 2000XL or 1000

By fasttrackpimp Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:03 pm
elektrofone wrote:any ideas for a "pocket" sound wamers/lo-fi FX box to carry in MPC bag?


I have an sp-303, it sounds good and has some good fx. When you sample into the sp-303 first and then resample into the 1k it sounds alot better than just sampling straight into the 1k imo.

Re: 2000XL or 1000

By dryad-66 Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:32 pm
I have to say this................Im loving the sound of the 2kxl.Now i like it better than my 4000.ahem!!!There truly is a sweet sound to this machine.I think fast track describes it well.It belongs to the classic machine selection.I mean ive had like tons of samplers and Now back to this lil doorstop powerhouse.And i can do the rest of the freakin in computer.Its sounding a lot smaller than the 4k tho.But i quite like that for now.ill use both.........btw-(2kxl)why do notes cut off when playing long samples in a sequence? :cry:
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Re: 2000XL or 1000

By browniez Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:50 pm
sold my 1K for a 2KXL. Just cause I like the whole build of the 2KXL, felt like a 1K was like a damn Tonka truck and the 2KXL was a Semi. Love 'em both, one has advantages over the other. I like the 2KXL more cause it forces you to be more creative..you're not given effects (unless you've got the optional effects card; which i don't have), you're given less sample time..therefore you've got to be more precise about what you want to chop, it's got a tilt screen, a dope interface. and yea, i plead guilty to this..most of my influences use the 2KXL.
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Re: 2000XL or 1000

By Tapuno Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:37 am
browniez wrote:(you've got the optional effects card; which i don't have)

I dont use mine. Wanna buy it?
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