How obsessed are you...

adrian wrote:

mr.pleasant wrote:Jimi Hendrix & Isley brothers record= RARE.....
any1 have that 1

Fail! Not hard to find.
http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?master_id=115503&ev=mb


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Maybe, but I have Jimi and Isley original records too but they're all in stereo. The rare ones are the ones in mono.

Some people are extremely discreet when it comes to selecting their samples. For many the rarer the better. Not for me though. I don't mind rare at all but I'm not going to let it damper my taste for music. That's stupid. And I don't believe just because 5 other producers have sampled a track doesn't mean that it can't be flipped by another.


I was listening to a Gladys Knight joint sampled by Rock and West. Bad example, but still..one of many examples. Like 9th said, it's not the equipment..it's the man behind the machine. Same thing applies to records..it's not the sample. It's the man behind the sample.

I am not super obsessed with finding rare samples though if I do find something rare I think oh yeah this is great. I am more into finding that $1 bin record that everyone has seen nad heard but nobody thought to flip that sample on the record. I hear records like how did you miss that? Sometimes Ill reflip a sample from a song I used to like just for the fun of it also especially if I already bought the record.

Im new to digging. Living in japan I found like 4 spots near me.. I dont know if im the only one touching these albums... I know you can order anything online. I got some sick shit though.. so happy... kinda going away from sampling my mp3s that I was sampling heavy.

It's not the record, it's what you do with what you sampled from it.

I don't see the point of looping anything, if I wanted to hear that song I'd play it. Looping and just throwing drums over it is kind of lazy imho. Take the notes and make something new and unique.

BLiTzZD wrote:It's not the record, it's what you do with what you sampled from it.

I don't see the point of looping anything, if I wanted to hear that song I'd play it. Looping and just throwing drums over it is kind of lazy imho. Take the notes and make something new and unique.

lazy looping..yeah ....but there are some neck breackers out there!!

KappNeffect wrote:

BLiTzZD wrote:It's not the record, it's what you do with what you sampled from it.

I don't see the point of looping anything, if I wanted to hear that song I'd play it. Looping and just throwing drums over it is kind of lazy imho. Take the notes and make something new and unique.

lazy looping..yeah ....but there are some neck breackers out there!!

madlib uses a few loops here and there

so did most of the top hiphop producers. I don't understand whats wrong with looping. Its just another technique IMO. If it sounds dope, it sounds dope period.
I rather listen to a loop based track with all the original groove in it than to a just-for-the-sake-of-flipping-chopped-up-track.
It seem that people forgot what can be done with loops. Finding a dope loop means goin deep into the original track. You can also find loops that doesnt contain the vibe of the original but change the vibe just because the part is looped. Thats very interesting IMO.
creating collages out of loops and layering loops is also great and need skills in listening and mixing them together.
Its not that lazy technique you might think of.

peace

peterpiper wrote:so did most of the top hiphop producers. I don't understand whats wrong with looping. Its just another technique IMO. If it sounds dope, it sounds dope period.
I rather listen to a loop based track with all the original groove in it than to a just-for-the-sake-of-flipping-chopped-up-track.
It seem that people forgot what can be done with loops. Finding a dope loop means goin deep into the original track. You can also find loops that doesnt contain the vibe of the original but change the vibe just because the part is looped. Thats very interesting IMO.
creating collages out of loops and layering loops is also great and need skills in listening and mixing them together.
Its not that lazy technique you might think of.

peace

troof

peterpiper wrote:so did most of the top hiphop producers. I don't understand whats wrong with looping. Its just another technique IMO. If it sounds dope, it sounds dope period.
I rather listen to a loop based track with all the original groove in it than to a just-for-the-sake-of-flipping-chopped-up-track.
It seem that people forgot what can be done with loops. Finding a dope loop means goin deep into the original track. You can also find loops that doesnt contain the vibe of the original but change the vibe just because the part is looped. Thats very interesting IMO.
creating collages out of loops and layering loops is also great and need skills in listening and mixing them together.
Its not that lazy technique you might think of.

peace

100% agreed
here is an interesting site about loops:
http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html

Repetition is a form of change
Brian Eno

peterpiper wrote:so did most of the top hiphop producers. I don't understand whats wrong with looping. Its just another technique IMO. If it sounds dope, it sounds dope period.
I rather listen to a loop based track with all the original groove in it than to a just-for-the-sake-of-flipping-chopped-up-track.
It seem that people forgot what can be done with loops. Finding a dope loop means goin deep into the original track. You can also find loops that doesnt contain the vibe of the original but change the vibe just because the part is looped. Thats very interesting IMO.
creating collages out of loops and layering loops is also great and need skills in listening and mixing them together.
Its not that lazy technique you might think of.

peace

I have this one beat... where... I thought it sounded good looped. I found like I think 8 cuts that made 2 variations each 4 bars long or so... maybe it was 8 bars I forget... anyways people who hear it seem to always be into it. but, sometimes I also get caught up with that thought about how I didn't mangle the sample and super flip it.. I dunno, sometimes I just think maybe it's not enough.

I don't limit myself to any rules, be it in what I dig for or what samples I take or how I flip 'em.
I do have my habits.
When it comes to digging, I buy anything I digg. CD or Vinyl is not really a criteria to me, depends on what it is, because I do like original recordings, rather than digitally remasterd stuff. But again that's not a rule, more a preference.
I like unusual stuff. Don't care if it's rare on the global market or not, but usually it does seam to be rare in peoples living rooms

last time I copped a couple of records, was all vinyl:

James Williams - Alter Ego (rare? I dunno.. do I care? Is it good shit? Yessirrr)

Stanley Clarke - Modern Man (rare? doubt it cos they had more than one copy.. dope? YES!)

Sounds of Siam - Thai Funk from the early 70's (rare? maybe.. unusual?: defnatley!! Dope?? Uuuh Yeah!! )