Trying to record is taking up my beat time...

So heres the deal,I been making beats for about 3 years now...
I'm pretty pleased with my beats but trying to record them and make them sound like they do out the monitors just seems impossible for me.
I use protools and track them out one by one and try to mix and master as best as I know but they always come out dull and light sounding nothing like they sound when im making them,I even bought Izone mastering cause I was told that would help but I got the same results.
Then I bought a roland vs 840 to see if that would help since my computer skills are not on point.
Anyway all this frustration is taking away time from me to actually make music,just wondering if anyone else has experienced this? And if you got thru it any tips on the subject?
Thanks y'all........

Join the crowd,...it's all a part of the learning process. Watch videos, read up on the areas you want to improve, and keep making music....There's really no shortcut. There are a few of ways to "fatten" up your tracks - compression, parallel compression, and layering are the ones that come to mind, with layering probably being the easiest to get started with. Hope this helps

wat recording interface do u use?

Having some skills & knowledge will make all the difference in the world. Once you get beyond the bedroom aspect of this thing, you'll have a better understanding of how to do things, what gear you'll need to do it, and the time & patience it takes to make it all happen.

Practice, read, learn every day. Thats the only way to learn. If you're just pushing buttons looking for a result it isnt going to work. It takes some time. Done let it get you down tho, just use your time wiser. Maybe reserve specific days/times for recording so you can focus on making music.

what pound said...just like you sit down to make beats you gotta sit down with this ..remember how you first beat joints didnt sound so great and well composed? same story here just a different chapter.

and dont buy more shit until you really figure out what you need and what is good to use, it's waste of your money.

konc3pt wrote:and dont buy more shit until you really figure out what you need and what is good to use, it's waste of your money.

To add to that, dont buy more gear until you learn what you have. Its a lot harder to learn 5 pieces of gear at the same time, especially when you are fairly new. It gets frustrating quickly.

Maybe you know how to mix and master and you haven't realized it yet. Your beats come out fine when you make them, so just directly record them without all that fancy cream and butter coating. Gotta keep it raw.

You guys are not answering his question. No matter how much Youtube video you watch, leave the mastering to the professionals!!!!

konc3pt wrote:what pound said...just like you sit down to make beats you gotta sit down with this ..remember how you first beat joints didnt sound so great and well composed? same story here just a different chapter.

and dont buy more **** until you really figure out what you need and what is good to use, it's waste of your money.

I need to start following this advice. If I'm being honest with myself I have too much **** gear that I don't know how to use....

^ we're all guilty of it one way or another tho but it hinders more than it helps.

CoinOP! wrote:You guys are not answering his question. No matter how much Youtube video you watch, leave the mastering to the professionals!!!!

yeah true, but let's be honest here... who is gonna do that for things they are making to hand out to friends etc?


I suggest following the advice from this thread and when recording to the computer, maybe try recording right from the stereo outs of the mpc... use that mpc main volume knob to get the volume up...

I suggest getting the hang of recording the stereo outs first and then later try getting things to sound good via the assignable outs.

my 2 cents:

make sure you are getting a good recording first. loud, but not clipping.

if you are tracking individual tracks, i suggest pulling all of your faders down and decide where you want to start. i usually do drums first. in pro tools i set up a stereo buss and route all drum tracks to it. then i mix my drums (just levels first, no eq, no compression).

then i will bring in the bassline, get the levels right with no eq and no compression.

then the samples and finally vocals. i dont apply any eq or compression here either.

once i have levels and panning sitting nicely, i will decide what is clashing (frequency wise) and start inserting 1 band eq's. this allows me to "put things in their place". i start notching the kick and bass, cut the lows on snares hats and any other high frequency tracks.

this might make some tracks seem louder and some quieter. so i may have to make some adjustments to the levels again, just to smooth out the mix.

by cutting frequencies so that they are not clashing with each other, you will remove a lot of the muddiness from your mix and the track will come out a lot clearer and crisp.

i consider myself somewhat of a mixing and recording engineer. mastering is a whole different set of skills. i send it out every time. i've studied mixing and recording, i am trying to perfect my craft. I will let someone who studied mastering polish my mixes.

peace

Yeah I would just say, focus on a single piece of software/hardware to mix on. Learn about frequencies and EQ and how to go about piecing your song together from a frequency standpoint so that the frequencies don't clash and the elements stand out. You should check out this post on the dubstep forum. The guy Macc is a professional mastering engineer. He knows his shit, you should read up. It's referenced so much on the forum it has become a sticky:

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=74832