Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By fewch Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:29 pm
ive read all the threads i could find so far, and have managed to hook up my microkorg to my 2000xl, through the midi out on the mk and midi in on the mpc. like everyone else i want to be able to play the keys of the microkorg on a track, over a sequence on the mpc.

i do not have a mixer though, so is there no way of being able to hear how both sound at the same time? I can use my headphones for my microkorg and then speakers for the mpc, but I want to be able to hear them all together at once on a single sound system, not using speakers and headphones.

Is there any way to achieve this without a mixer?

Cheers
By fewch Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:30 am
thanks man, but I don't use my pc at all though with my set-up, everything goes into the mpc. Is there any way to get the microkorg and mpc to play at the same time without using any other external piece of kit?

And thanks a lot for the suggestion I'll have a look at those mixers, I'm just hoping for a way to play them all at once for the time-being til I get one
By fewch Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:48 am
btw, what type of mixer would I want, I'm on the site and theres dj mixers, small format etc, not sure what I'm looking for. Could you recommend one for under £100 please?
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By jonestown massacre Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:43 am
no, you cant run anything into the mp while playing a sequence back, you will need a mixer (scsi knows his shit, behringer will get er done) or a soundcard and daw (the tascam us 122 is cheap and will accommodate the recording method scsi mentioned, or you could roll a tascam us144 and input everything at once.) If your insistent upon doing it without a mixer, the newer models (1000, 2500, 5000) all support record whille playback.

Read the manuals thoroughly, the 2000XL has visual examples of how to set you gear up and make it work together.

EDIT: Yo, I just reread your second and third posts....WTF dude? RTFM and google search are you friends, dont be a knowledge leech.
By scsicardreaders.com Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:04 pm
fewch wrote:btw, what type of mixer would I want, I'm on the site and theres dj mixers, small format etc, not sure what I'm looking for. Could you recommend one for under £100 please?


This is a very good deal on a good little mixer: BEHRINGER XENYX 802.

I used to own one of these and they sell quite cheaply used: Behringer Eurorack UB1202.

Another good one: BEHRINGER UB1002 EURORACK 10-INPUT 2-BUS MIC LINE MIXER.

Any of these will give you all you need and more. Behringer packs a lot of functionality into their mixers and the signal-to-noise ratio is pretty good for such inexpensive gear.

Good luck!
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By nogginj Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:02 pm
Personally, I think Behringer audio signal processors are the wrong way to go (they make good controllers though).

If you are really that adamant about spending money, you could educate yourself and actually build a very simple, unpowered mixer that would suit you perfectly.

http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circ ... mixer.html

It's a great project to learn with, and might cost $20 to build. You can even cut it in half if you just use mono.
By scsicardreaders.com Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:39 am
nogginj wrote:Personally, I think Behringer audio signal processors are the wrong way to go (they make good controllers though).



I'm curious as to why you say that - did you have a bad experience with one of their mixers? I have owned several of them, different models in the under $200 range, and I was always pleased with the quietness, signal routing flexibility and overall bang-for-buck.
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By nogginj Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:09 pm
Yea I've used a couple dj mixers that sound like sh1t, not many times, but enough times to avoid using them after that...hence the not many times. You only have to burn yer hand once to know not to touch the stove while it's on, know what I mean?

Also, my comment comes from a much more general 'crap' to 'clean' sounding experience I had when I upgraded my gemini to a vestax. The difference was absolutely night and day how clear, unnoisy, and (*insert un-quantifiable audiophile term here*)-ier the vestax was. Since then, I just started noticing how gear that is designed with being cheap as the #1 priority never really sounds as good as maybe a less featured, but more reputable or more solid piece.

Not to mention a lot of the behringer stuff I've come across is often on the verge of falling apart.
I know it works for a lot of people, and I am very hesitant to insist on spending more money (higher price does not always equal higher quality), but in my opinion, a small extra investment in something as important as a mixer goes a long way in the end.

Heh, having said that, I'm curious to know why you've been so many behringer products? ;]

EDIT: I should note that building your own mixer like I suggested above is not going to be any better in quality or necessarily sturdiness than a behringer...but the cheapness and experience balances out that stuff. And hey, if you do a little research, it very well could be much higher quality than a cheap consumer mixer.
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By aRKei Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:19 pm
fewch wrote:ive read all the threads i could find so far, and have managed to hook up my microkorg to my 2000xl, through the midi out on the mk and midi in on the mpc. like everyone else i want to be able to play the keys of the microkorg on a track, over a sequence on the mpc.

i do not have a mixer though, so is there no way of being able to hear how both sound at the same time? I can use my headphones for my microkorg and then speakers for the mpc, but I want to be able to hear them all together at once on a single sound system, not using speakers and headphones.

Is there any way to achieve this without a mixer?

Cheers


Could you please indicate what parameters you changed in the 2KXL and on the Korg to be able to record sequences in the MPC?
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By mumkai Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:18 am
scsicardreaders.com wrote:
nogginj wrote:Personally, I think Behringer audio signal processors are the wrong way to go (they make good controllers though).



I'm curious as to why you say that - did you have a bad experience with one of their mixers? I have owned several of them, different models in the under $200 range, and I was always pleased with the quietness, signal routing flexibility and overall bang-for-buck.



i have a behringer 8 channel mixer and it does its job great, however i do wish i spent the extra $50 for a mackie. as for having multiple units (mpc, syths, etc) going into the mixer and then having the mixer going into my interface is great. now, when i use effects thats when things start to sound crappy. it just doesnt hold up when i use the (mini) kaoss pad through the aux ins.