1K & S950

Just bought myself a s950 for 70 Euros yesterday.
What's the most effective way to use him:

- Sample into the s950 then transport to the 1k
- Sample into the 1K, get the audio sample through the s950 and back to the 1k
- Sample into the s950, then link it with the 1k so the 1k triggers the s950
- other??

Thanks

i would go with

- Sample into the s950, then link it with the 1k so the 1k triggers the s950

otherwise why did you buy the s950

resampling back into mpc1000 defeats the point of the s950 imo

Simply use the machine the way you planned it before you bought it.

or havn't you planned it?

peace

My first intention was to run particular sounds/samples thru the s950 and then store them in the 1K.

I did a bit of reasearch myself and some say resampling it back into the 1k is useless. Other say it aint useless since you can't boost a sound once its 'downgraded in bits' in the s950

lol downgraded in bits

Bit depth = dynamic range on playback, or headroom while recording (effectively)

Sample rate = Bandwidth


Just use the sampler for it's intended task and stop fussing

Ok i phrased it wrong, my bad.

I want to record the samples into my s950 then either transport them to my mpc1000 or trigger the mpc 1000 to play on the s950...Or sample into the 1000, put it thru the s950 and then back to the 1000

Im know the mpc1000, but im not familiar with hookin' shits up with midi, so give me a break

I have the s900 and a 4K, I tend sample into 900 then record out from it into 4K. That way I can easily make a keygroup synth out of the sounds and avoid the memory limitations of the 900 while preserving most of the 12 bit vibe and one machine workflow. Also I'm afraid of floppies getting corrupted/exploding. You can trigger the samples from the 1K, of course, but when inspiration strikes I do not want to be flipping switches on 3 machines, finding the right floppy, loading the sample, etc., etc., blabitty, blabitty.

- Sample into the s950 then transport to the 1k
- Sample into the s950, then link it with the 1k so the 1k triggers the s950

It will depend on your motivation, your skills and the gear you own.

If you want to link them via MIDI you'll need at least a mixing desk with 8 ins, decent EQ and compressor. The "oldschool" way is not rewarding at the beginning in my opinion. It takes time to achieve a good result.

Resampling in the 1K is the easiest way so maybe you should try to start with that.

Peace

MIDI on the MPC with an s950 is simple.

Just plug a midi cable from the in to the out on each unit (MPC=In 1,Out A: S950 In, Out...2 cables).

In the MPC, set track (x) to:

midi:1A-Device01

instead of

drum(1,2,3,4):off (pgm name)

and record a sequence. All sampling, editing, etc. for s950 will be done on the s950 (and vice versa).

You can assign samples to the 8 outs on the s950 and same with the 6 assignable outs on the 1000. That makes the most sense. 14+ outputs to record out of, route to effects or otherwise process.

With this setup, you could also run the samples back into the mpc out of 2 of the 8 outs on the s950 and still maintain this config too, so you get the best of both scenarios. (Except to sample into the 1000, you will have to triggers the samples on the s950 ).

If you got the s950 for its sound, USE IT for its sound, 'na mean?

Final advice, read this:


peace

Yo

Sample the main sample into the s950

Then output the sample into 2500

Turn off s950

Chop in the 2500 or comp and u know the rest

The s950 flavor is partly done by the record in, and the rest of its flavor is done internally and output

After that u just sample it, the fx are all there

I always run the full samples thru it and chop later so in case i wanna change my chop

jonestown massacre wrote:

If you got the s950 for its sound, USE IT for its sound, 'na mean?


peace

Word. Im rocking an S3000. The mpc can spoil you with its fast chopping and ease of use. U just have to dive in and get comfortable with these "ancient" samplers. I was discouraged at first. but After watching vinyljunkies S3200 chopping tutorial I saw it was a breeze. All my drums are done on the S3000 and sometimes chopped samples (usually longer samples or beats with around 10 or less total chops.) (i absolutley love how samples sound after going through the S3000's converters. THe 1000 is very clean and the 3k gives me a warmer/meaty sound) plus its kind of cool doing things a different way or on other equipment...keep things fresh/interesting. And one extra thing...the additional sampler can come in handy in regards to POLYPHONY. With the 1000 depending on what features u use and how many samples ur using, polyphony can run out quick. So let that S950 pick up some of the slack.

does the 950 have digital in/outs? if so, sample into the 950 and then digitally transfer the sample into your mpc. this way you keep that 950 sound. not sure how/if this works moving a 12 bit sample into a 16 bit sampler.

any, that's how i sometimes work the a 3000xl and mpc1000. and i actually enjoy working with floppies again.

^^ You won't really get the sound the 950 is known for if you use the digi in and out. AD DA converters are one of the reasons for the sound. Filter, pitch algorhithm, ADSR envelopes, WARP, limited polyphony, oldschool time stretch, preamp overdrive, are some other reasons for the sound. The most important of them can't be "ported" when you sample to another sampler: Pitch behaviour (aliasing), ADSR, Filter.

Sure, it will get colored by the 950 when you use it that way but I recommend to use as a full member of your gear family to get the absolute 950 sound.
MIDI it

peace

peterpiper wrote:^^ You won't really get the sound the 950 is known for if you use the digi in and out. AD DA converters are one of the reasons for the sound. Filter, pitch algorhithm, ADSR envelopes, WARP, limited polyphony, oldschool time stretch, preamp overdrive, are some other reasons for the sound. The most important of them can't be "ported" when you sample to another sampler: Pitch behaviour (aliasing), ADSR, Filter.

Sure, it will get colored by the 950 when you use it that way but I recommend to use as a full member of your gear family to get the absolute 950 sound.
MIDI it

peace

Word up.

Thanks for the replyes!

Bit noobish bout that right here..

I work limited. My thoughts were: sample in s950 then out to the 1000 and bang/edit/chop etc in it..

Now the next, probably, stupid question. If i record from turntable->mixer->s950 i have only the single line input in the s950.
My mixer comes with stereo out.. Am i remarkebly stupid i dont get it or...

Another question. What's the best way to route the s950 to the mpc1000? Mix out to one (left or rght) input on the mpc and then record as mono?

And if ive sampled a lead melodie? 2 Outputs running from the s950 to the stereo input on the mpc and then pan it?

Or is it possible to trigger sounds from the s950 with the 1000 and sequence it in the 1000 without resampling?