1K & S950

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Re: 1K & S950

By jonestown massacre Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:08 pm
NavNek wrote:Ok,

I use an mpc1000.
I recently bought the s950. I only want to use it for its sound. Not intended to make whole tracks on it.
First when i bought it i thought. I just sample in the s950. then sample from the s950 into the mpc1000.
Ive heard this is not a clean method to keep the sound in check. So now im appealing to other methods, but i dont know how.



If you want the sound of the S950, you NEED TO RECORD THE S950. Resampling into the 1000 is going to take 2-3 times as long as learning and using the S950 properly.
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Re: 1K & S950

By nogginj Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:18 pm
You could simply sample drums into the s950 and use the mpc to trigger the drums only on the s950. Keep your long samples in the mpc. You shouldn't run out memory then. If you do, then you need to learn a bit more about memory-conservation.

I agree with most people around here...sampling into the 950, then sampling that again into the mpc, seems like a waste of time and money. You are not using the 950 at that point, you are simply touching it hoping it will magically make your sounds better.

Still, if that's what you want to do, then just do it. It's your style, not anybody elses...so do what you want.

If you want to use it to it's fullest potential, you have to work a little harder, learn to manage your memory, and use both machines at the same time. Many people have done it for many years way before the mpc1000 came out.

I also agree with that you need to just try it and quit talking about it on the internet. ;]
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Re: 1K & S950

By Menco Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:51 pm
Not to forget, the S950 is such a straight forward machine, that every bit of time you lose with the oldschool way of chopping samples are well compensated by it's overall workflow.

Make templates and load these in every time you are about to use it. Store some favourite drumsamples on a floppy and you can work almost as fast as on the 2500 (depending on what you are doing).
Plus it's fun to work with this machine. For me it breaks the mpc habit a bit when I'm bored.

Re: 1K & S950

By NavNek Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:58 pm
Ok thanks!,

I think i was a little bit lazy indeed. Im not so familiar with hardware except the mpc1000. Ive read the manual partially and try to figure most of the info out!
thanks, in the future i try to be more assertive.

Still im dealing with a little problem right now. I got the following link:

Turntable->mixer->s950->Amplifier (just budget tulp inputs)->speakers

but got only sound from 1 speaker. I know its a mono machine. Ive got a mono to double mono runnin outta s950 to my amplifier. The manual says hack to phono. Are those two similar, my mono to double and a hack to phone?

Ive tryed it turntable->mixer->s950->apogee duet input1->logic mono track and that works like it suppose to..
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Re: 1K & S950

By jonestown massacre Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:07 pm
NavNek wrote:I know its a mono machine.




Actually, its a Stereo machine that samples in Mono, hence the Mono input and L/R output (+ Monitor out and 8 Indiv. Outs).

You GOTTA read the manuals man. Dont just skim thru, read em thoroughly. Youve already shwn us you havent done the proper research before buying the machine. Before asking for more help on gear you dont understand, read up. I provided links to everything you need, dude.

Re: 1K & S950

By NavNek Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:34 pm
I know, sorry for being that pain in the ass bout the s950...

I tryed pluggin in my bassguitar, played some notes still the sound's comin out one speaker, even with my headphone plugged in the mix out its coming out one side of the headphone
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Re: 1K & S950

By mr_debauch Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:39 am
NavNek wrote:I know, sorry for being that pain in the ass bout the s950...

I tryed pluggin in my bassguitar, played some notes still the sound's comin out one speaker, even with my headphone plugged in the mix out its coming out one side of the headphone


make sure your output knobs are together... kinda hard to explain but if you look at it close you will notice the knob is split in two... anyways make sure both the upper and lower knobs are together turned up...

also, the 950 does not have a headphone output I dont think... therefore you must be putting your phones into the mix out. well the outputs on the 950 are mono outputs. they can not take stereo quarter inch jacks (the jacks with three contact sections... ) and playback stereo on your system. you must get a mixer (not a dj or scratch mixer) and you run the mix output into a channel panned to the center.

RTMFM.

also, download this video... it is the video manual made for the s900 back in '86... not only is it funny watching 25 years later but it has some great tips that will help you out because the s900 and s950 are similar with a similar layout.
http://www.zshare.net/download/562917677ccbf54e/

then RTMFM again once you're done.

Re: 1K & S950

By NavNek Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:35 pm
thanks for your reply.

'output I dont think... therefore you must be putting your phones into the mix out. well the outputs on the 950 are mono outputs. they can not take stereo quarter inch jacks (the jacks with three contact sections... ) and playback stereo on your system. you must get a mixer (not a dj or scratch mixer) and you run the mix output into a channel panned to the center. '

The manual says i need a hack to phono from the mix out to a hifi amp, so i did that, still one speaker working. The knobs are all in place..Im not a really expert (you probably noticed that already :P) but do i need an another cable. I got a 6.3mm TRS Jack to 2 x 6,3 mm Mono Jack...
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Re: 1K & S950

By mr_debauch Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:47 pm
NavNek wrote:thanks for your reply.

'output I dont think... therefore you must be putting your phones into the mix out. well the outputs on the 950 are mono outputs. they can not take stereo quarter inch jacks (the jacks with three contact sections... ) and playback stereo on your system. you must get a mixer (not a dj or scratch mixer) and you run the mix output into a channel panned to the center. '

The manual says i need a hack to phono from the mix out to a hifi amp, so i did that, still one speaker working. The knobs are all in place..Im not a really expert (you probably noticed that already :P) but do i need an another cable. I got a 6.3mm TRS Jack to 2 x 6,3 mm Mono Jack...


yes because you are plugging one single mono cable into the left or right of your hifi amp.... not the left AND right.

that is why I said you need a mixer... because it takes mono signals and plays them through both speakers supposing you have the PAN knob centred.

Re: 1K & S950

By NavNek Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:59 pm
it's a y-cable
one in left and one in right input of the amp
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Re: 1K & S950

By jonestown massacre Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:02 pm
mr_debauch wrote:you need a mixer... because it takes mono signals and plays them through both speakers supposing you have the PAN knob centred.

Re: 1K & S950

By NavNek Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:11 pm
I think i did not understand it at first, sorry. Maybe i was misleaded by what the manual displayed. Kinda wack that they wrote this down:

'If you are using a hi-fi amp, then you will probably need to use a hack-to-phono lead and connect the S950 to the AUX input on the amp.'
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Re: 1K & S950

By jonestown massacre Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:13 pm
The S900 manual has the same info, but it is written in a much more clear and detailed manner. Check it out too.



Is "hack-to-phono" in the manual???? WTF does that even mean?? Im guessing 1/4" TS to RCA cable? Or 1/4" TRS-Dual RCA?
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Re: 1K & S950

By nogginj Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:13 pm
Didn't someone above say the s950 has stereo L/R outs? Just use those as intended. One for left input on your amp, one for right input on your amp. There is no need to 'hack' anything.

ps. if you do get a ts->2 mono y-cable NEVER use it to 'mix' two signals together...it wont work right and it's actually bad for the equipment.

edit: the 'hack-to-phono' thing sounds like they are saying, if you want to plug it into the 'phono' input (turntable) on your amp, you would definitely need to do some processing on the signal first, as it would totally blow the phono input. dont use the phono input and youll be fine.
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Re: 1K & S950

By jonestown massacre Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:17 pm
nogginj wrote:Didn't someone above say the s950 has stereo L/R outs? Just use those as intended. One for left input on your amp, one for right input on your amp. There is no need to 'hack' anything.



jonestown massacre wrote: 1/4" TS to RCA cable (x2) from L/R on the S950 to the Aux Input (L/R) on the HIFI amp.
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