F*ck sample clearence

Ill-Green wrote:My dude who's a bass player for a jazz band at a hotel was listening to some of my collection at my crib. I played some Budos Band and he was like "wow, that sound is beautiful! Who are they?" I'm hard-up so I say "well man, you gotta figure that one, haha!" Dude busted out his iPhone and putted it to the speaker and said "Oh the Budos Band! HAHA!" He had an app that can tell what music you was playing thru any speaker. I was like yeah cool app (really frustrated though). But then it hit me, I pulled out my Swamp Water Plague EP and challenged him to decipher the samples of every song. Want to know what happened?

So, what happend???

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Shazam won't detect a sample if it's chopped up and layered with other stuff. It seems to need a solid 5 seconds of the track at its original pitch to work.

Coz wrote:Shazam won't detect a sample if it's chopped up and layered with other stuff. It seems to need a solid 5 seconds of the track at its original pitch to work.

Not true....

Prah_860_ wrote:Not true....

Yep, I had to put this to the test to see if my assumptions were anywhere close.

I'm just going on my Mixtape track as I left the sample as a loop, albeit slightly filtered...

Shazam will detect the clean sample at any pitch, and the shortest I could get it to recognise it was around 3 seconds.

As soon as the beat drops Shazam can't detect the track, so I'm probably right on the "Shazam won't detect a sample if it's chopped up and layered with other stuff" part - which is what we're really interested in here.

thanks folks

Had to keep the suspense.

His digital technology was overwhelmed by the almighty analog force of my beats and so he departed in shame. But when he got to the door he said Good job, then the titties popped out and ass everywhere... **** you Prah!

Ill-Green wrote:Had to keep the suspense.

His digital technology was overwhelmed by the almighty analog force of my beats and so he departed in shame. But when he got to the door he said Good job, then the titties popped out and ass everywhere... **** you Prah!

if someone samples something and then you turn around and sample THAT person, he/she really should have no beef, because they sampled in the first place.

i also believe its ok to sample other producers (hip hop usually in this case) drum sounds. they may have eq'd or compressed it /etc, but chances are, you're probably going to play differently (pitch, adsr, layer). if you decide to keep it exactly the same, that should be cool to.

a kick is a fvcking kick. a snare is a snare.


and also, **** SAMPLE CLEARANCE!!

DPM wrote:if someone samples something and then you turn around and sample THAT person, he/she really should have no beef, because they sampled in the first place.

i think it all depends on how something is sampled. if you spent ages re-arranging a sample, laying down bass, spending ages on some thick and heavy drums... all for some guy to sample it and add one more instrument i'm sure you will be pissed!

hip-hop producers should have no problem with other people using their instrumentals to spit bars over, though. after all, that's why they are made.

Tracks wrote:Im with you, i will never clear a sample, ever. Until we get signed

That seems to be the consensus.

Chances are if your being sued, your prob makin some noize....

This reminds me one argument with an anthor producer here in sweden, an sample based beat I made. He listen to the beat and start to asking what sample did I took from. And I said I just took it. Then he started to say: "I know that from an american hip hop song". Then I ask back: "Do you know what song it was then?"

And he said: "I dont know, but I can look upon that... Now to the sample"...

Sneaky as a snake! He tried to trick me to give up my sample knowlegde to an dude over the msn, that I never meet before. HAHA! I answer back if you know the song, look up the song it self and look upon what sample he used. Then you know the answer.

**** that sample what ever u feel like
disney dont be trippin if u draw mickey mouse an sell it
so sample what ever u feels like
and if u get sued then **** it
u got ur balls in their mouth feel me

Its like I said, if you're not making profit out of it then the label-lawyers can't make a profit out of you. Now, if Kanye used a well known sample and he didn't clear it, then you'll see him getting sued on the front page of XL. Kanye is cash-cow status, I am not

Aye!