MPC 2500 SE FO / MPC 5000 FO

CoinOP! wrote:Don't listen to people like kon3pt who don't even own a MPC(5000). The 5000 is a good MPC. I don't understand why people still hate. Konc3pt you realy need to STFU now always hating on the 5000 every chance you get! For the people with problems there are 10 fold who don't have any or occasional problems. You just don't hear or read about them.

Yes I want an OS update, only because the 5000 has so much potential. But I work fine with it.

Software or hardware, any equipment has it problems.

you need to snap out of this denial phase, quick glance over first few pages of 5000 section say it all...nobody is hating you just over reacting..by the way how do you know how much potential 5000 got? how do you measure that? Do you know what components are under the hood or what capabilities akai OS got ? or is it still buggy as hell and once they iron them out it's got potential to be good mpc, care to elaborate ?

I will STFU now cuz evidently feelings get hurt and emtotions fly high

konc3pt wrote:

CoinOP! wrote:Don't listen to people like kon3pt who don't even own a MPC(5000). The 5000 is a good MPC. I don't understand why people still hate. Konc3pt you realy need to STFU now always hating on the 5000 every chance you get! For the people with problems there are 10 fold who don't have any or occasional problems. You just don't hear or read about them.

Yes I want an OS update, only because the 5000 has so much potential. But I work fine with it.

Software or hardware, any equipment has it problems.

you need to snap out of this denial phase, quick glance over first few pages of 5000 section say it all...nobody is hating you just over reacting..by the way how do you know how much potential 5000 got? how do you measure that? Do you know what components are under the hood or what capabilities akai OS got ? or is it still buggy as hell and once they iron them out it's got potential to be good mpc, care to elaborate ?

I will STFU now cuz evidently feelings get hurt and emtotions fly high

First few pages from 2008!? And... you don't even own a 2500 nor a 5000. So STFU!

CoinOP! wrote:

konc3pt wrote:

CoinOP! wrote:Don't listen to people like kon3pt who don't even own a MPC(5000). The 5000 is a good MPC. I don't understand why people still hate. Konc3pt you realy need to STFU now always hating on the 5000 every chance you get! For the people with problems there are 10 fold who don't have any or occasional problems. You just don't hear or read about them.

Yes I want an OS update, only because the 5000 has so much potential. But I work fine with it.

Software or hardware, any equipment has it problems.

you need to snap out of this denial phase, quick glance over first few pages of 5000 section say it all...nobody is hating you just over reacting..by the way how do you know how much potential 5000 got? how do you measure that? Do you know what components are under the hood or what capabilities akai OS got ? or is it still buggy as hell and once they iron them out it's got potential to be good mpc, care to elaborate ?

I will STFU now cuz evidently feelings get hurt and emtotions fly high

First few pages from 2008!? And... you don't even own a 2500 nor a 5000. So STFU!

I really must be hitting close to home for getting this type of reaction outta you, why dont you get your daily prozac and come back for more civil converstation kid...

Also you're a retard if you think that by going 3-4 pages deep into 5000 section you already in 2008 But that dont surprise me for being 4 months old noob 100 posts light what do ya know, you cant even get right what MPC I currently own

First 5000 post doesn't make you an expert, which shows. I'll put you on blast no matter what your post count/title is. Second this is not my first account. So stop running your mouth.... Don't give advice to people about equipment you don't even own. Messing with a MPC at GC or a friend doesn't make you an expert.

Your a fraud and you're exposed. I'm done!

CoinOP! wrote:First 5000 post doesn't make you an expert, which shows. I'll put you on blast no matter what your post count/title is. Second this is not my first account. So stop running your mouth.... Don't give advice to people about equipment you don't even own. Messing with a MPC at GC or a friend doesn't make you an expert.

Your a fraud and you're exposed. I'm done!

Again, how much potential does the 5000 have ? So right now got no potential? Still waiting for akai to deliver it cuz it didnt come originally with your 5000 ? You silly noob Im solid...but you still biased noob... How you gonna put me on blast when nobody really listening to your childish static noise you dumbass .. running my mouth ? check your initial reaction and see who is running their mouth and over reacting, hope ya had toilet paper handy in case you decided to shit yourself reading this one .. Playing with 5000 at gc dont make you an owner either, dont get it twisted

MPC500 < MPC5000

Ill-Green wrote:MPC500 < MPC5000

the MPC 5k doesn't even have Global program edit.......To the dude that first posed the question, If the screen and control's is what you want **** em both and get a 4k, no one here can state an argument over the 4k being the highest performing Mpc of the series, has the ability of a jj 25, the screen of a 5, built sturdy as hell, and sounds extremely better than both. The only thing it can't do is record audio to tracks....but most people have daws for that anyways. I promise you, buying a 5k will be a gamble.

CoinOP! wrote:Don't listen to people like kon3pt who don't even own a MPC(5000). The 5000 is a good MPC. I don't understand why people still hate. Konc3pt you realy need to STFU now always hating on the 5000 every chance you get! For the people with problems there are 10 fold who don't have any or occasional problems. You just don't hear or read about them.

Yes I want an OS update, only because the 5000 has so much potential. But I work fine with it.

Software or hardware, any equipment has it problems.

your talking to a dude who has owned damn near EVERY MPC.

how bad is the screen on the 2500? is it much worse than the 5000?

and what do you mean about control? can you give me a clue wich one of the three MPCs is the easiest one to use as a beginner?

thanks

ArKyve-31 wrote:the MPC 5k doesn't even have Global program edit.......To the dude that first posed the question, If the screen and control's is what you want **** em both and get a 4k, no one here can state an argument over the 4k being the highest performing Mpc of the series, has the ability of a jj 25, the screen of a 5, built sturdy as hell, and sounds extremely better than both. The only thing it can't do is record audio to tracks....but most people have daws for that anyways. I promise you, buying a 5k will be a gamble.

sinik wrote:how bad is the screen on the 2500? is it much worse than the 5000?

and what do you mean about control? can you give me a clue wich one of the three MPCs is the easiest one to use as a beginner?

thanks

Well the EASIEST would be a 25 with the free JJ cause its resembles the akai os. Look they all make music but like I said in on the first page, the 2500 is proven and tested, I guarantee you'll be happy with the 2500 with jj, if you're not then the mpc line in general is not for you.

dopedee wrote:

CoinOP! wrote:Don't listen to people like kon3pt who don't even own a MPC(5000). The 5000 is a good MPC. I don't understand why people still hate. Konc3pt you realy need to STFU now always hating on the 5000 every chance you get! For the people with problems there are 10 fold who don't have any or occasional problems. You just don't hear or read about them.

Yes I want an OS update, only because the 5000 has so much potential. But I work fine with it.

Software or hardware, any equipment has it problems.

your talking to a dude who has owned damn near EVERY MPC.

Except for the 2500/5000...... And if he owned "damn near EVRY MPC" he should know they all had their problems.......

ok folks, take it easy.

can anybody tell whats the difference between the MPC 2500 SE and the MPC 2500 SE Full Option? the only thing ive figured out was the 120 GB HD, how much GB does the SE standard have?

ArKyve-31 wrote:the MPC 5k doesn't even have Global program edit.......To the dude that first posed the question, If the screen and control's is what you want **** em both and get a 4k, no one here can state an argument over the 4k being the highest performing Mpc of the series, has the ability of a jj 25, the screen of a 5, built sturdy as hell, and sounds extremely better than both. The only thing it can't do is record audio to tracks....but most people have daws for that anyways. I promise you, buying a 5k will be a gamble.

I didn't want to post in this thread for obvious reasons, but there's some misinformation in that above post.

The 5K has global program edit, it's called Multi Pad Edit.
And whether the 4K sounds extremely better than the newer 16 bit MPCs is arguable. Just because it has 24 bit convertors doesn't mean those sound necessarily better than 6 years newer and better engineered 16 bit convertors and their analog stages. Just take a look at the 16 bit Apogee Mini-Me. There are many opinions on sound quality differences between convertors and it seems to be a highly subjective matter, but there are many users who had both the 4K and the 5K that support the notion that the 5K sounds improved upon the 4K.

There's more the 4K is lacking compared to the 5K: aside from 8 track HD recording, the 5K has the (actually really good sounding) synth, a flexible arpeggiator, fully expanded connectivity by default, Continuous Sample Tracks, Pad Mute Groups, strength and Window parameters in Timing Correct, no need to stop the sequencer for on the fly edits and more.
Sure there's stuff the 4K has that I wish the 5K featured too: 512 MB max memory and SMPTE In/Out.

@ Sinik: if you can get both the 2500 and the 5000 for the same price (and if the 2k5 actually has a HDD included), there's no contest. Go with the 5K because it has only advantages over the 2K5:
- ADAT 8 channel digital lightpipe output
- phono input
- much more qlink controls
- the synth
- 2 x the sampler polyphony (64 voices)
- 960 ppqn resolution compared to only 96 ppqn on the 2k5
- 192 MB max memory compared to 128 MB
- HD recording that actually isn't a workaround like with JJOS
- more filter types
- 4 x simultaneous effects (8 compared to only 2 on the 2k5)
- bigger display (240 x 128 compared to 240 x 64)

Also see this comparison chart:
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/article/1 ... chart.html

[Don't know for certain if JJOS improves any of the above compared features on the 2k5.]

Especially the number of simultaneous effects and voice polyphony indicates the processor(s) in the 5K is/are much more powerfull than the one(s) in the 2k5. Of course all the MPC's processors are nothing compared to a multicore Intel CPU

Like I said if you can get both for approximately the same price, the decision should be easy. The 5K doesn't need a third party OS and is much more powerfull straight out the box than you could ever pimp a 2k5.
JJ constantly updating JJOS for the 1K and 2k5 is really a good thing, but there's only so much a developer can do in a limited environment, with limited processing ressources and screen real-estate. Now if AKAI came out with an OS 3.0 for the 5K and improve on it's features even more or - one can dream - hire JJ again for an OS upgrade for the 5K.. hehe...

otobot wrote:

ArKyve-31 wrote:the MPC 5k doesn't even have Global program edit.......To the dude that first posed the question, If the screen and control's is what you want **** em both and get a 4k, no one here can state an argument over the 4k being the highest performing Mpc of the series, has the ability of a jj 25, the screen of a 5, built sturdy as hell, and sounds extremely better than both. The only thing it can't do is record audio to tracks....but most people have daws for that anyways. I promise you, buying a 5k will be a gamble.

I didn't want to post in this thread for obvious reasons, but there's some misinformation in that above post.


And whether the 4K sounds extremely better than the newer 16 bit MPCs is arguable. Just because it has 24 bit convertors doesn't mean those sound necessarily better than 6 years newer and better engineered 16 bit convertors and their analog stages. Just take a look at the 16 bit Apogee Mini-Me. There are many opinions on sound quality differences between convertors and it seems to be a highly subjective matter, but there are many users who had both the 4K and the 5K that support the notion that the 5K sounds improved upon the 4K.

There's more the 4K is lacking compared to the 5K: aside from 8 track HD recording, the 5K has the (actually really good sounding) synth, a flexible arpeggiator, fully expanded connectivity by default, Continuous Sample Tracks, Pad Mute Groups, strength and Window parameters in Timing Correct, no need to stop the sequencer for on the fly edits and more.
Sure there's stuff the 4K has that I wish the 5K featured too: 512 MB max memory and SMPTE In/Out.

Its not that the 4k can do 24bit or 16bit, its the type of a/d converters akai used before they were bought out by numark. In my opinion the 4k,2k's, 3's and 60's all sound better due to the quality of converters used. Moreover, I don't and wouldn't use a 8 track hd recorder, its what my DAW is for, and you don't need to stop the sequencer in the 4k to edit programs, multi's or samples, all can be done while the sequence is playing. I've seen too many 5k's crash or break within months of being unboxed to be able to ever suggest one to a first time mpc user. The bottom line, the jj 25 is a more stable platform and machine at this time.