JJ OS Feature Requests (ARCHIVE)

I'd like to be able to set different values for the loop end and the sample end points.

At the moment you can "unlock" the sample start and loop start so that they have different values but the sample end is always locked to the loop end.

I'd like to have a sound fade in when I hit a pad, sustain while I hold the pad, then fade out when I release it.

cross9 wrote:I'd like to be able to set different values for the loop end and the sample end points.

At the moment you can "unlock" the sample start and loop start so that they have different values but the sample end is always locked to the loop end.

I'd like to have a sound fade in when I hit a pad, sustain while I hold the pad, then fade out when I release it.

ok i will chime in here again. cross9, you can do all those things you mentioned. What MPC and JJOS are you using? another thread would be better though
On MPC1000 with JJOSXL you can set a sample to trigger, with sample set to a loop mode in the sample TRIM window. Then set samples trigger mode to LOOP&HOLD in program AMP window. The rest is just changing attack and release of AMP and FILTER settings as you play it, say with Q slider.
The loops start point of the sample is not the same as samples start point in this example . The end point though is something else.
O and i can think of other ways to do what you want to do, like chopping and sequencing the sound you want, or use NDC ect ect

And while I'm still here.
Wheres my polyphony ?? I seemed to have missed where it says your MPCs polyphony is halved when using JJOSXL. wtf 16 is kinda restrictive, 24 voices instead of 32 I could handle but 16? I'm guessing things like loop player are holding back the number of voices that can be played at once. So I request that the looping recorder is dumped in favour of more polyphony. Whos with me? no one probably. IMHO if you want that kinda thing, then just spend the $123 on a SP303 or simillar loop player or learn how to use the MPC to get the samples BPM and chop/patchprase/sequence it. Yeah I know, for 'LIVE' fun, and a bit of djing its kinda usefull, but i do not feel in anyway that the MPC is some cheap loop player, more a sampler, and sequencer, and the loop recorder function seems like a step back to me. In other words i think the loop player is dumbing down the MPC to some SPX0X box, and if any one here can enlighten me on how great it is, for some reason, i will continue to think that it is not an enhancement. Obviously i dont find it that great a feature and think voice count more important. Rant over.

Polyphony is the same i.e. 16 voices in stereo or 32 in mono.

le rat wrote:Polyphony is the same i.e. 16 voices in stereo or 32 in mono.

Really ..... Kool thanks i was getting samples cuttin out and looked at voice monitor bumping round 16 and assumed that what was happening was polyphony being halved. I have mix of stereo and mono samples going and I cant be bothered going through and counting them all up to figure the polyphony ceiling
SO why does voice monitor not count stereo as 2 voices so then i really know what the voice count is, not just how many samles are playing at once??? this i assume is what i am really seeing instead of a voice out count??

bliprock, you may have just confused cross9 as you didn't really address his FR,
which is to have a separate parameter for sample end and loop end. this is NOT currently in jjos2xl (or any os for the 1000/2500) and would be a very useful addition.

second, polyphony is the same. watch your meter and see what sounds are taking up all your polyphony when you solo your tracks. stereo voices do indeed count as 2 voices in the poly meter, so what you're seeing is accurate. check your mute groups, mono programs etc to make sure the samples aren't cutting each other off that way.

and keep your mitts off my looper...

Q-Link assign to AUDIO track volume, or to Metronome volume while in AUDIO track mode.

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LOOP on/off button in AUDIO tracks. - Right now you have to go to a non-audio track to set the LOOP on/off.

Nym wrote:bliprock, you may have just confused cross9 as you didn't really address his FR,
which is to have a separate parameter for sample end and loop end. this is NOT currently in jjos2xl (or any os for the 1000/2500) and would be a very useful addition.

second, polyphony is the same. watch your meter and see what sounds are taking up all your polyphony when you solo your tracks. stereo voices do indeed count as 2 voices in the poly meter, so what you're seeing is accurate. check your mute groups, mono programs etc to make sure the samples aren't cutting each other off that way.

and keep your mitts off my looper...

Yeah i think that diffrent loop end point would be good but i just use NDC to set different end point in same sample, its a work round but it fakes different end points. Yeah it was weird cos i checked two songs i did and i managed to make both tracks with simillar track count, so i assumed that it was polyphony as i did check mute grops ect.... Thanks Nym... Keep your looper

Please please please can i request that the end point stays highlighted in the trim window when retriggerring sample. Currently when i retrigger sample when i am setting sample end point in TRIM window, the start point is then highlighted, meaning i have to push left button to highlight sample end point again and again if all im doing is trying to set sample end point. Kinda pointless get it. So thats anothere little thing i would love to see implimented as it would greatly improve workflow. oh and same in chop window

Which reminds me of another simillar request - I would like to have the end point and start points be toggled off or on so the NDC start and end points are the related to each other..hard to explain.. You know when you NDC and can set start and end points of the chops but can we have a button to toggle the end point of a chop to be exactly the same as the start of the next following chop. Some times i want to cut up stuff but spend a lot of time lining up end and start points in NDC mode. So being able to toggle the next chop starting point to be same as samples last chop point. The ability to turn this function off and on would be the only way to have it cos obviously we like the option of both.
What does everyone think

bliprock wrote:Please please please can i request that the end point stays highlighted in the trim window when retriggerring sample. Currently when i retrigger sample when i am setting sample end point in TRIM window, the start point is then highlighted, meaning i have to push left button to highlight sample end point again and again if all im doing is trying to set sample end point. Kinda pointless get it. So thats anothere little thing i would love to see implimented as it would greatly improve workflow. oh and same in chop window

Which reminds me of another simillar request - I would like to have the end point and start points be toggled off or on so the NDC start and end points are the related to each other..hard to explain.. You know when you NDC and can set start and end points of the chops but can we have a button to toggle the end point of a chop to be exactly the same as the start of the next following chop. Some times i want to cut up stuff but spend a lot of time lining up end and start points in NDC mode. So being able to toggle the next chop starting point to be same as samples last chop point. The ability to turn this function off and on would be the only way to have it cos obviously we like the option of both.
What does everyone think

the first request can already be done. you have to hit the right pads. I forget wich pads do what (have to be on my mpc to remember). But 1 pad retriggers sample with start point highlighted and another retriggers sample with end point highlighted.

as for the second request, that is a good idea. like when start point of a chop is highlighted hold shift and hit f2 key to set start point to previous chop end point.

cyrus wrote:as for the second request, that is a good idea. like when start point of a chop is highlighted hold shift and hit f2 key to set start point to previous chop end point.

+1

cyrus wrote:the first request can already be done. you have to hit the right pads. I forget wich pads do what (have to be on my mpc to remember). But 1 pad retriggers sample with start point highlighted and another retriggers sample with end point highlighted.

as for the second request, that is a good idea. like when start point of a chop is highlighted hold shift and hit f2 key to set start point to previous chop end point.

thanks for that. in NDC mode it end point stays highlighted to it seems. F2 is free in that mode so maybe just use that instead of shift+F2. less button presses the better. I assume in the Trim NDC window, that you cant change number of chops?? like in normal chop mode. Is it only ever 32 chops ?? being able to change the NDC chop amount would rock my booty thats for sure

Auto create programs like the 5000 would be great, say you have a folder full of kik waves, you would just "do it" to the folder and the mpc would load all the kik waves and create a program automatically! going through and assigning every pad kinda sucks!

bliprock wrote:

cyrus wrote:the first request can already be done. you have to hit the right pads. I forget wich pads do what (have to be on my mpc to remember). But 1 pad retriggers sample with start point highlighted and another retriggers sample with end point highlighted.

as for the second request, that is a good idea. like when start point of a chop is highlighted hold shift and hit f2 key to set start point to previous chop end point.

thanks for that. in NDC mode it end point stays highlighted to it seems. F2 is free in that mode so maybe just use that instead of shift+F2. less button presses the better. I assume in the Trim NDC window, that you cant change number of chops?? like in normal chop mode. Is it only ever 32 chops ?? being able to change the NDC chop amount would rock my booty thats for sure

You can set the number of slices, but in the end there are still 32 chops - for example, if you slice the NDC at 16, the other 16 are just tacked onto the end blank (start and end point are identical).

I definately see value in the f2 key to set the start point to the end point of previous chop.. that would be for some quick chopping.

Another similar idea would be some kind of "lock" feature, where you could lock a chop's end and it would lock its end to the next sample's start, so no matter if you adjusted the end or the next samples start, it would adjust both chops....it would be cool if you could have the "lock" ability to turn on and off per chop. so some chops you could have overlapping and some chops you could "lock".

bliprock wrote:Please please please can i request that the end point stays highlighted in the trim window when retriggerring sample.

Hit pad 4 or pad 8 (note on or one shot behavior) if you want to stay on the END parameter.

It's disconcerting in comparison with old OS but I got slowly accustomed to.

Peace

They should implement Sample-Cycling Feature like the "5000" has..

Example: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHvc_6yKE6A)

This shouldn't be anything too difficult to add. I would like it to be a able to cycle thru 8 or more sounds.

anyone here with me?