Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By cyrus Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:09 am
jimmie wrote:Quantize current Track Events to Events on another Track

Essentially, having the mpc look at a single Track of Event positions and using those Event positions to quantise another Track. If events fall outside of a certain range they are not quantised.

A kinda 'User Groove' solution.

I posted this in the Feature Request thread so I'll say no more here.


I really like this idea. An addition to this would be the ability to use those same "user grooves" with the note repeat as well. in the TC window (from main screen or from note repeate window) you could pick [1/8],[/1/16],[1/32],etc. and add [track/seq] it would let you pick a specific track in the current sequence as the groove template, or pick another loaded sequence as the groove template(the whole sequence) or pick a specific track in another loaded sequence.

I think this could really be a whopper of an addition for the mpc groove. mpc-samples.com for example could sell some "groove templates inspired by dj premier" for example. Or you could use something like recycle to generate a sequence from a drum break, load that sequence, use it as a template and be off on your own pattern with a stolen groove.

this same idea could be extended to arpeggiator maybe too?

at least this is my thoughts on it, i havent read you post in the feature request thread....what do you think? ill find your posst in other theead and add it here.

peace
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By bliprock Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:53 am
cyrus wrote:^^exactly what he said....."happy accidents"......


I see where you are comming from, its very true you can manually do it, but that's the point, its manual.

If you've ever used a sequencer with differant track lengths where you can set each track to loop with differant amount of bars and at differant start and end positions, I think you may have a better idea of how it can give you more freedom.

Recording sequences becomes less calculated; for example, i can set my seq length to say 64 bars......freestyle some drums for 16 bars, grab 2 of the 16 bars of drums i like, loop that, then move onto the next track, do the same thing (maybe with a piano riff, and i end up grabbing 8 bars looping at bar 23-31). Basically, allowing you to use the sequencer as a scratch pad; using less start and stops and less copy and paste, less calculation, with more freedom to choose the section of the sequence you feel has the right groove.

Its one of those features that isn't a must, and the mpc has gotten this far with out it...but its one you will end up loving once using a few times and wonder why it wasnt there before. Its simple but can be really powerful.

and, why not? why not have more ways and options for sequencing? if its there, you can use it, if its there, you can choose not to?!


Aha I see exactly where your coming from. Ok yeah but i find that manual method is just fine for my workflow, either laying down first and jamming over it or editing a sequence where i want different length parts but only for so many bars. Cos of this i dont have that same approach everyone else does. Can dig how it contributed to the usabilty of the MPC and might use it myself.

And while I'm at it....
I posted a question bout JJOSXL a little while back.....and no one has answered so i guess most concur on workflow i was taking and that I'm right to assume that you can not record in realtime the Changes of an entire program, on sundry tracks???
:?
Am I right? thats my first obvious JJos request ever. Now i did think about it and have work rounds. Like number one is to feed output of all MPC back into MPC (CAREFULL FEEDBACK) and filter the imput. Or manually copy paste event data to every track??
:P I went WOW look, [shift] select all... :D yeeha thats what i paid money for, hit record and no, :( but thats ok im generally blown away by it all.
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By astronaut Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:42 pm
tarbaby wrote:^^^^What they mean is Ie:Track1 2 bars,track2 8 bars,track3 4 bars.....all looping on there respective bars.Nice.


could you not just record the track into a sample, loop it and assign it to a pad and set the pad to toggle on/off? I don't think there is a way to do toggle on the MPC but I have a Korg padKontrol hooked up and set the pads to toggle note on/off, so I can have samples of different lengths looping insync.
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By kneebone77 Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:43 pm
I was recently looking over a thread talking about "micro tuning" and thought of a really cool feature that should be feasible.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=140968&p=1322630#p1322630

I'd like to see a menu in the instrument program that allows for change of tunings for creating different scales. I use to own an Akai S-6000 and it had an excellent way of implementing this.
(pic below from S-6000 Manual)

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Notice how at the bottom it shows an octave keyboard and how you can detune each key to your liking creating custom tunings. Being able to save the custom tunings as templates would be off the hook as well.
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By bliprock Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:53 am
kneebone77 wrote:I was recently looking over a thread talking about "micro tuning" and thought of a really cool feature that should be feasible.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=140968&p=1322630#p1322630

I'd like to see a menu in the instrument program that allows for change of tunings for creating different scales. I use to own an Akai S-6000 and it had an excellent way of implementing this.
(pic below from S-6000 Manual)

Image

Notice how at the bottom it shows an octave keyboard and how you can detune each key to your liking creating custom tunings. Being able to save the custom tunings as templates would be off the hook as well.


Yeh nice one, but would have to add that the keyboard should have 2 octaves as eastern scales are sometimes more than twelve notes, like 14 notes.
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By cyrus Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:58 am
bliprock wrote:
kneebone77 wrote:I was recently looking over a thread talking about "micro tuning" and thought of a really cool feature that should be feasible.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=140968&p=1322630#p1322630

I'd like to see a menu in the instrument program that allows for change of tunings for creating different scales. I use to own an Akai S-6000 and it had an excellent way of implementing this.
(pic below from S-6000 Manual)

Image

Notice how at the bottom it shows an octave keyboard and how you can detune each key to your liking creating custom tunings. Being able to save the custom tunings as templates would be off the hook as well.


Yeh nice one, but would have to add that the keyboard should have 2 octaves as eastern scales are sometimes more than twelve notes, like 14 notes.


good shit. yo what happend to you mp3? where you at holmes?
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By mr_debauch Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:35 am
not that i'm on these machines, but maybe a tap slicing feature could go along with the pad trimming idea mentioned on the first page.. like lets say you have a 5 second sample and you know how you can determine approximate bpm by doing tap tempo? well how about something similar that places start points each time you tap it while listening to the sample.. then one click and it could be in a program with the ability to fine tune the start points.

not sure if something like that exists but I picture that being something new i'ver personally never seen.
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By le rat Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:33 am
mr_debauch wrote: well how about something similar that places start points each time you tap it while listening to the sample.. then one click and it could be in a program with the ability to fine tune the start points.


combined with NDC it could be a dope feature.
By 504James Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:27 pm
More than 1 slider parameter in sequence per note, and in addition to tune, decay, attack, filter, etc, let FX be saved with the note in sequence.
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By B.A. Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:28 pm
Velocity Strength

We already have quantize strength which helps tighten things up timing wise so we don't have to manually nudge notes, so "velocity strength" would tighten things up on the velocity side of things. We could choose a percentage (just like with quanitize strength) that would dictate how close the velocity levels recorded would be to the actual full level that was set, anything above or below the level would be adjusted accordingly.
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By mr_debauch Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:49 pm
would be neat if you could change the midi sensitivity to parameters other then velocity as well.. and maybe you could have the ability to make the change to individual pads too.. might be cool combined with that feature ^