The MPC-V: A Virtual Akai MPC

Came across this, what do you think?

Some interesting comments in the text...





http://audiostateofmind.com/2011/mpc-v#more-135

looks interesting, but this kinda had me confused

The DAW and the MPC are natural enemies

Although I have issues syncing my 4 with Record do to program bugs, syncing my mpc's to cubase were always easy and smooth, now I know he referred to it in a different way, as far as the daw competing with the mpc, but in most realistic enviorments the mpc and daw go hand and hand, most serious mpc users dont use one without the other.


Another thing that got me is when he said its the end of the DAW, thus the mpc is no behind 3 generations...then starting to refer to ipad apps...is he insinuating that ipad type apps are going to do away with daws??

The DAW and the MPC are natural enemies

who wrote this? they are clearly not talking about jjos
equipment integration and the lazy/uncreative are natural enemies.

this feller seems to be chasing "latest and greatest" mediums. i know that game. it's like risk, it never f*cking ends and yet you know who is winning a quarter of the way into it

This is the same cycle. Remember those "old, outdated tube based hardware boxes" and "analog keyboards" that we couldn't wait to replace with the new Digital stuff. Now they are selling for thousands. I did it too. But I am not gonna make that mistake again. I will embrace new technology WITHOUT BLINDLY abandoning what is working for me right now.

interesting. but why the **** would i want 3 giant ass controllers? even back in 2005 i wouldnt have wanted that. lol. just saying.

i still think with maschine, ipads, etc. the concept of this is still yet to be accomplished and the potential is still there. a hybrid mpc. either an mpd like controller with ipad or ipod dock and companion app. or maschine like controller with full software (done less NI like and more MPC like but just as powerful), or complete stand alone unit but with super super tight computer integration and companion software (sort of the idea beat wangs had but failed. standalone unit but complete compatability with software, and use it as controller as well)..............either 3 would work for me as long as:

1.the software/app is just ridicoulously done well and captures the essence of the traditional mpc but gives you the advantage of using a computer.
2.its developed by someone with the same intuition as jjos - or same mind set or whatever you call it. not just making an "mpc like app" you need to make "THE mpc app"
3.its not big and bulky. but not cheap, and too small.

but what i really think is up akai's sleeve is what they are doing with the "synthstation 49" but an mpc controller instead of keyboard..........but im thinking they dont want to kill the current line of mpc's............or they are waiting to strike to really really nail the app and see how things pan out first with the synthstation so they really nail the mpc-station. know what im ssaying? i can only hope.

I liked the idea of a modular system based around a core sampling engine.

That would allow the user to connect additional pad sections for immediate access to the banks.

Probably more useful in a live situation but still, giving the customer a choice is never a bad thing.

None of the current systems allow direct access to more than 16 pads, why?

Thats where multiple MPC's comes in handy, and of course MPD's..

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=147263

There is some interest in such a concept.

clint246clint wrote:I liked the idea of a modular system based around a core sampling engine.

That would allow the user to connect additional pad sections for immediate access to the banks.

Probably more useful in a live situation but still, giving the customer a choice is never a bad thing.

None of the current systems allow direct access to more than 16 pads, why?

Thats where multiple MPC's comes in handy, and of course MPD's..

i see your point. modular so you could add on more faders, pads, whatever depending on your needs. I could definately see this if the software component was more robust than basic mpc operation, if it had some daw abilities or packaged with a daw and you could also use your controllers with the daw.

If I could plug in an MPD32 to my 4000 or 3000 to control each of the three extra banks like Q-Links (knobs, sliders and pads) by default I could settle for that.

Real talk.

what would lock up the market is if (and not speaking on business terms really) but if the makers of abelton, or reason were to buy, or more realistically be bought out buy akai (i know akai kinda fails in customer support) and fully integrate a mpc, a true mpc with one of these daws 100 percent, no midi assignments needed. Give the mpc a firewire/mlan type output so multitracking is all right there and all you need to do is hook up a midi keyboard if keys are desired. Now most of us, myself included can already do this with our respective daws and sound cards, but i think if someone stepped up and put this all in one the market would be locked for the most part. The motif came close when they worked with cubase and the mlan option but it needs to be one company running both the hardware and the software to work effectively and smoothly. A merger would be ideal, because both would be best at what the do, software company and hardware company meeting in the middle on one project. Untill then I will always rely on my hardware for my own personal reasons

I didn't read the full post at that site but it seems as if Maschine has this ground covered.

the more interdependencies and pieces involved, the more A, assumption of technical capacity of the end user (eg cockos reaper) or in-house environment building required (propellorhead reason). this is the tradeoff, in my opinion.

the pieces already exist to create what is described in this article.
if you want to shell out $$ for it pre-assembled, i guess that's the option that we are beginning to see (in an admittedly limited form) with maschine, meeko, etc.

but in the end nobody can provide you with YOUR best environment...other than you

i mean, the picture clint posted is pretty much exactly what my mpc1000xl looks like.

Nym wrote:i mean, the picture clint posted is pretty much exactly what my mpc1000xl looks like.

which I have been wondering how the full sized pads concept turned out... I am sure it was you who was talking about that.

it turned out awesome, actually...due to the technical simplicity of what we are dealin with. the mpd FSRs ported into the mpc1000 akai padfix pcb allows us the benefit of the large size pad format of the mpc2500/4000/etc/etc/

it's just a matter of me building a control interface for the L and R op boards for the mpc1000. i'm currently deciding between a capacitive touch sensitive model or a tact switch based model. both ideas have their benefits and tradeoffs

currently i'm leaning toward a capacitive model. less room for error but more room for win. time will tell.

Upright wrote:I didn't read the full post at that site but it seems as if Maschine has this ground covered.

Yep, and if anyone thinks Akai can code software better than NI they're obviously tripping!