Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Smoove03 Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:49 pm
yo nevermind. i cant explain the question so forget this post. 8)
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By _cc Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:15 pm
can you give an example...?
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By Smoove03 Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:20 pm
the question seems kinda confusing. im not sure how else to explain myself. i've heard people rmix their beats before and sometimes they have only changed something simple like the bassline and added a few more instruments here or there. or changed the beat up completely and called it the remix.

the reason im kinda confused at the term remix is becuase i have read some software descriptions and sometimes they might say "easily remix your tracks..." then i hear some people say they remixed some tracks but it would sound totally different the the original. then i've heard some remixes that sound kinda similar but they changed things. so i just want to know what exactly is the remix and does it always have to reflect the original in some way?

thats the only way i know how to explain the question. sorry if this is confusing. if its too confusing for anyone ill just forget about it.
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By _cc Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:30 pm
if you're trying to redo a beat (and if i'm gettin you rite), depends what you wanna do. popular thing for a lot of people to do is chop the sample up (listen to the why remix or the lean back remix). you can add a different drum pattern...maybe make it faster. and add a lot of bass. but it basically depends on how you wanna go about it. i usually chop up the sample a lil more (especially if i just have basically just looped the sample), and redo the drums to make it sound harder and faster (no homo).
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By Smoove03 Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:45 pm
aight bet. that helps a bit. i like the example you used. the why remix. but i feel you. thanks for tryna understand my crazy question cc lol

appreciate it
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By cyrus Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:46 pm
yeah, i always wondered that shit too.

But, alot of people refer to "remix" as in: they take the acepella of the original song, and just make their own beat to it.

So a producer would do that because he wants to show off his beat skills, and show that a current famous song, would sound good to his beat, thus, showing that his beat is actuall good (as opposed to shitty, because there are no lyrics to it)

I remix, just because i wanna see what lyrics sound to my beat, so really that isnt even remixing, its just laying an accepella over it.

DJs remix, (i think), as more of a "set" so theirs is more live. Like when you are in the club, and the beats blend together.....if you can "remix" good, then you are a good dj, because you can match acapella to any beat, or mix two beats together, by messing with eq, etc. so that they blend. Or adding stutters and scratches. This type of remix shows off your dj skills.

Then you got the "jermaine dupri" or "RKelly" remix, which i think is just using the same "chorus-words" but to a newer beat (may contain same melody) and adding maybe another artist.

I think the "Rkelly" remix is more of a ploy, to just re-propel the song, or music so that it sells more....more of a marketing and promotion remix....but lots of times that second version is hotter!

but in a sense, the "Rkelly" style is good, because hind sight is 20/20, so in the second, they can taylor the beat, or words so that it hits a "Broader" audience, or to do something they couldnt before (in terms of requirements of an album) Such as an artist might not have been available before when the original was done......or "50cent" is hot right now, so lets make "Rkelly" hot because he collabs with "50cent", so people who like 50cent, now would buy Rkelly.

Notice that alot of those dudes say "remix!" in the remix.....i think so that people with the original "song" who like the remix better, will relize that its new, and go out and buy the new one........If you buy the remix, chances are you already have the original-marketing and developing a current customer base.

Btw. this is jsut specualtion on what i have figured out
peace
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By Smoove03 Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:06 pm
cyrus i appreciate you takin time to explain that. i understand what you mean. i wish i would have left my original question to get more input on it. but thanks!! :) i hear a lot of folks say remix but be referring to different things. and im interested in redoing some of my tracks so wanted to know would that be a remix and if i was to do that how should i go about doin it. what to add in it.

but thanks for ya help man!!
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By ieism Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:21 pm
I think you just need to shout "it's the remix, the remix!" at the start of the track for it to be a remix.
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By Smoove03 Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:08 pm
lol yea i guess

that seems to be the popular thing
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By binger0 Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:25 pm
i think what u are talkin about is called a re edit. DJs too it to make songs, like well known songs or just bangers, iller or do things like extend or take out parts of songs, like loop the ill break for like 16 bars instead of it goin only 4. or like takin out the wack chordchanges or hooks and just goin into the verses. in the old days cats used to splice up tape on the reel to reels to make these edits. now u can do it in a DAW. in the lab then play these edits live and people like em cause they are unique. Ur the only cat who has em. u can do what u said and add basses or other insturments, whatever u want. but they arent really remix's where u flip the whole song up.
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By Smoove03 Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:08 am
gotcha. :) yea guess your right. i do know what you mean. thanks binger :arrow:
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By Blue Haze Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:12 pm
Check out a great book called HOW TO DJ RIGHT the art and science of playing records by Frank Broughton and Bill Brewster. Most of the the music (beats) club, and etc were created by DJs doing a live remix with two turntables or reedit on tape. Basically if you got an accapella with none of the original background music which you created the whole track from scratch you got a remix. If you a mixing instrumentals with a accappella then you are making blends aka "mixtapes". If you are rearranging the chorus, stretching the verses, bridges, or cutting and splicing the pieces together for reedits like they used to on WBLS NYC mix shows you got an reedit. To think about sampling is reediting a loop , remixing an acceppalla , and making new compositions with notes from five or more records. Use your 2k or 2kXl to the fullest like the beatkings before ya Smooth B. Think like a DJ. :D
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By binger0 Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:17 pm
thats a real good book. i would advise anyone to read that producer or dj
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By Smoove03 Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:25 pm
how much? the last thing you recommended binger was great! that website about music theory and scales. so ill take your word for it. but yall explained this to the fullest. so thank yall