scoobylol wrote:^^^
The 808 sounds are still hugely used all over the place, and the original drum machines go for serious money. Pretty poor choice of comparison.
Also, some people are quite happy with what they use. Knowing your equipment inside out and how to work around limitations is just as viable a way of creating new sounds as investing in new gear.
Don't get confused with new techniques and new equipment. Most new equipment usually just builds on ideas that have been in practice for years. And how many "emulations" do we see these days? Maschine itself has an emulation of certain samplers you appear to be knocking here.
It also seems ironic that you can't be some guy in a funky basement smelling like cheese banging on the same box.... unless it's a brand new shiny Maschine shaped box. 
Oh boy here we go,
Lets start here,. 808 Sounds are widely used correct but the 808 is a "relic", There's a reason why roland made other drum machines. It's because technology progresses and as such new equipment to make better sounds and program better drums have been developed. Sounds don't get old YES! that is true but equipment unfortunately DOES get old.
That's what annoys me the most about gear boards guys talk about other gear like they owned it all and tried it all and shun new gear like they've used it. Mostly it's just the same closed minded folks spewing "theories" about gear they've never used, take a look at 99% of the replies in this post.
The Maschines programming capabilities and technology blow the MPC out of the water. I Think you're confusing "Sounds" with "technology". Essentially if you have sampler you can capture any sound from any machine, that doesn't mean your machine is up to date. That just means you have that one sample. Not everyone is interested in making tracks out of other peoples work via sampling. People that like to create their own sounds from scratch need more programming work than the MPC can offer. That's what makes the Maschine attractive because it makes that work easier.
"some people are quite happy with what they use. Knowing your equipment inside out and how to work around limitations is just as viable a way of creating new sounds as investing in new gear. "
save that speech for someone who hasn't been recording tracks for years. People are happy with what they use when it's all they can afford. People learn their equipment inside out when it's all that's available to them. You work around your limitations because you don't have the means or the funds to eliminate them. That's the reality of making music. Been there done that and grew up and moved on.
If there's gear out there that's offering what you want and you can afford it why stick with a box that's not up to job? Because someone else saw Kanye use one or Just blaze use one and think that's all they need too? Those people work out studios with an S-load of gear they aren't just running tracks off an MPC. They have use additional gear, programs, engineers, etc. etc. to push out those tracks you hear on the radio. The MPC is just one part of that. Like I said for the thousandth time now. The MPC is a good piece of gear, it's a great piece of gear but it's not the solution to everything. You're not going to pick up an MPC and get every sound and every style you want off it, it has it's "limits" and depending on what kind of music you create you'll either find them out sooner or later.
Me, I'd rather not play the stubborn fool. If there's some new gear out there I'm gonna check it out. If I like it I'm definitely gonna buy it. That doesn't mean I'm going to throw out my old gear, every thing has it's place but it doesn't mean I'm going to use it as much if I find some gear that does what I want better and makes it easier for me to do so like the Maschine. Editing tracks are easier, editing sounds are easier, not repeat has it's own dedicated button, it's nice. Stop hating on gear unless you've used that gear. I know own both the Maschine and the MPC. If there's a person that I want to take advice from about which they prefer I'm going to take it from someone that ACTUALLY OWNS BOTH PRODUCTS, not the guy who makes assumptions about a piece of gear he hasn't even breathed on because he's too stubborn to leave grandma's basement and venture to guitar center.
That's what I hate the most about these freakin boards you can't have a civilized chat or discussion about gear without some Amish gear user shunning everything that's new tech to them. I originally only made this thread to discuss gear, yet it just turns into some middle school lunchtable argument I'm not interested in.
The truth is if you love music and making music don't keep your head in the sand and stay stuck to one piece of gear. Keep your ears and your mind open. Check out other gear and if you find that you like it but can't afford it or it's out your reach put it on layaway, get a second job, sell stuff you don't need, just don't make excuses and hate on new gear just because it's new or brings something different to the table.
There's a reason why Akai didn't stop making MPC's after the 2000XL. It's because technology changes and the cause of those technology changes are the fact that the needs of the user changes. Thus why gear like the Maschine exists. I'll say it again and just one last time. The MPC is a good piece of equipment, No, it's a great piece of equipment but, it's not everything.
