Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By tonyscarbones Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:19 am
i been using stock OS since day 1

about to make the jump to JJ

just curious what are the negatives about it?

i'm getting it anyway but still wondering what are the negatives
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By Jungleman Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:39 am
There's so much more you can do on JJ OS-XL... meaning, there's quite a steep learning curve. You can use it straight away, but be prepared to spend time studying the manual.

Plus it seems there are still some bugs being documented & corrected. That's why I'm still on JJ OS-XL 2.30, don't have time for bug-hunting at the moment...
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By m:t:c Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:39 am
Bugs are the only gripe I have about the XL, but note that even with the bugs it's light-years ahead of anything the Akai OS had.
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By sally Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:03 am
Jungleman wrote:There's so much more you can do on JJ OS-XL... meaning, there's quite a steep learning curve. You can use it straight away, but be prepared to spend time studying the manual.

Plus it seems there are still some bugs being documented & corrected. That's why I'm still on JJ OS-XL 2.30, don't have time for bug-hunting at the moment...
m:t:c wrote:Bugs are the only gripe I have about the XL, but note that even with the bugs it's light-years ahead of anything the Akai OS had.



this is a very great trilemma!!!
the fallacy.
I think
:lol:
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By cyrus Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:20 pm
**** learning curve, its not that hard. okay so some things are moved around, big whoop, if you have half a brain you'll figure it out.

i'd say the only grip would be bugs. but thats a double edge sword. fast updates, jj responding to user input, etc. out weighs the bug issue. with any development you got bugs. there are always bugs, its a fact. shit you never anticipated, the faster you develop (most of the time), the more probable youll have bugs. can't complain about bugs then go post a feature request! if you know what im saying.

and if you dont know, this is how its been working:

1.new features requested
2.new features added
3.some bugs reported
4.bugs fixed (next day, or within a week)
5.we all happy

your safest bet is to cop the version like a month after the initial big release, hopefully all bugs worked out.
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By m:t:c Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:54 pm
True and none of the bugs i've encountered are really a show stopper. Just an annoyance in otherwise amazing piece of kit :-)

The speed that these get fixed is amazing.
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By tonyscarbones Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:54 pm
ok thanks

i'm gonna get the latest version then this weekend

will this upgrade to jj os xl 3 effect any of the sequences, programs, or samples that I have saved in my internal hard drive right now????
By evil A Sulli Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:50 pm
The biggest negative is not having it.As for bugs, it's apart of all complex programming. I remember finding a bug in a compiler (the tool you use to make programs) and a bug like that you can't fix until the manufacture fixes it.



sally wrote:
Jungleman wrote:There's so much more you can do on JJ OS-XL... meaning, there's quite a steep learning curve. You can use it straight away, but be prepared to spend time studying the manual.

Plus it seems there are still some bugs being documented & corrected. That's why I'm still on JJ OS-XL 2.30, don't have time for bug-hunting at the moment...
m:t:c wrote:Bugs are the only gripe I have about the XL, but note that even with the bugs it's light-years ahead of anything the Akai OS had.



this is a very great trilemma!!!
the fallacy.
I think
:lol:


I have tried to understand and reproduce some of Sally's Bugs and let me tell you it is not easy to reproduce-- give it a try. JJ could spend a whole day on one of Sally's bugs and not even reproduce until the next day.

In the end we (Akai and the users) have a great programmer at our disposal to give us something we were never supposed to have.

P.S. Sally you need to brush up on your English if you really want to help JJ and us better--videos aren't enough.
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By sally Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:02 pm
evil A Sulli wrote:P.S. Sally you need to brush up on your English if you really want to help JJ and us better--videos aren't enough.


JJ and I are going together to the same academy of English but different courses.
By evil A Sulli Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:08 pm
sally wrote:
evil A Sulli wrote:P.S. Sally you need to brush up on your English if you really want to help JJ and us better--videos aren't enough.


JJ and I are going together to the same academy of English but different courses.



It seems you English is good but you choose not to use it.

Ge wiz can you please explain what this means....in your good English...thanks


sally wrote:
this is a very great trilemma!!!
the fallacy.
I think
:lol:
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By Jungleman Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:52 am
tonyscarbones wrote:will this upgrade to jj os xl 3 effect any of the sequences, programs, or samples that I have saved in my internal hard drive right now????


Oops.

That's a good question.

If you're upgrading from Akai OS, then yes, it most certainly will. There are incompatible elements, lots of them. Read this first (and if you don't get it, read it again, do some searches, then come back with more questions):

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/mpc ... ortant.htm

More explanations can be found in the JJ OS-XL manual...
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By sally Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:36 am
evil A Sulli wrote:of Sally's Bugs
of Sally's bugs


Sally said:
thanks for your words!



evil A Sulli wrote:
sally wrote:
evil A Sulli wrote:P.S. Sally you need to brush up on your English if you really want to help JJ and us better--videos aren't enough.


JJ and I are going together to the same academy of English but different courses.



It seems you English is good but you choose not to use it.

Ge wiz can you please explain what this means....in your good English...thanks


sally wrote:
this is a very great trilemma!!!
the fallacy.
I think
:lol:


The dilemma is sometimes used as a rhetorical device, in the form "you must choose A or B" in this case, A and B would be propositions that lead to additional conclusions.
Used this way,
the dilemma can, sometimes, you get to propose three solutions ( trilemma ) dilemma of three solutions, none of which is entirely acceptable, (A, B or C ). The appearance of a dilemma over an argument may invalidate their effectiveness, thus being considered a fallacy.

of Sally's bugs
:lol: