When you sample do you..

I chop it up like its going out of style. If you want to make any sort of progressive dance break from a loop sample then yeah it has to be choped IMHO. BUT I do use the loop function for FX, rolls and glitch kinda stuff as well. I purposely sampled classic breaks used by the likes of chemical brothers and chopped it up and re-arranged it into a 16 bar break beat. Using the multi outs as well so certain chops of your loop can be sent to FX or whatever and returned. Ie good old gated reverb on one of the kicks and snares every bar or so. Works a treat, could not believe how close it sounds to classic 90s breakbeat. I mean it is 90s breaKbeat bigbeat stuff, thats exactly how they do it. I played it to a friend who likes breaks and liked it but said it sounded a bit dated... kinda 90s. I said yeah thats the idea F*$%. I confess to liking that genre and have to not live in the past..Thanks to a MPC1000 with JJOSXL I can drop that sukka anytime live. You never know when you need a kicking retro 90s breakbeat. I mean thats why its called break beat. Its broken beats put back together again different. I do like the repitition, but love the play between repitition and progression, which is beautifully illustrated in alot of the progbreaks that have been comming out. Its a balance and repitition is the root of alot of stuff like trance or triphop

bliprock wrote:I do like the repitition, but love the play between repitition and progression, which is beautifully illustrated in alot of the progbreaks that have been comming out. Its a balance and repitition is the root of alot of stuff like trance or triphop

can you give some examples where you think that balance is well met?

My motto for sampling is "if it ain't broken, don't fix it."

innovine wrote:

bliprock wrote:I do like the repitition, but love the play between repitition and progression, which is beautifully illustrated in alot of the progbreaks that have been comming out. Its a balance and repitition is the root of alot of stuff like trance or triphop

can you give some examples where you think that balance is well met?

good question. I think only the good stuff I know, this is not a good answer or a link. Its good though to realise that it makes me think that it has to have this balance to be good, and good stuff has it. If you follow me? The list is gettin longer everyday as more comes out. And there are lots of genres as well, downtempo stuff like uziq, boards of canada, funki porcini, cut chemist. Up tempo stuff like drumatic twins, soul of man, cold cut, and then there is mentalist stuff ie real fast like sh1tman, kid 606. kid 606 is a fave of mine, he doesnt chop he mangles it to hyperspace. There is heaps out there. Just above is a week or two of examples that show the way a loop is cut up and rearranged - its actually the sampler being programmed from a drummers perspective really. IMHO the classics all follow natural progressions that are variations of a theme if you like. the theme being that beat, that is arranged for the track. The breakbeat genre is focused on the break yeah, so its the main theme, and main focus for these tracks and so, its gotta be interesting, and have variation, giving it movement. Also means as well that a proper breakdown can be done as well, like a drummer. Call and response variations on a rhythm have natural resolves that are inherent in the beat, and this is more than just muting hits. A breakdown is the best thing that realy illustrates how good someone can program these natural variations and resolves into very clever endings and cresendos. Then there is the double breakdown ect.