Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
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By YumYumRolex Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:35 am
What are the benefits to changing up the Time Signatures on the MPC 4000? From my understanding you can switch the Time Signature up for Dirty South Compositions? What is the appropriate Time Signature for a Dirty South type beat, Im just trying to touch a new genre of music with my instrument that I have yet to explore...Also, is it neccessary to change the Time Signature for a R&B slow jam type beat? I just use a tempo of 62BPM-74BPM around there and I know I can do more or Im not exploring the full potential of making R&B slow jams...Any help or insight is appreciated.
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By Lampdog Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:38 pm
YumYumRolex wrote:Im just trying to touch a new genre of music with my instrument that I have yet to explore.


With all due respect dude, above is your problem.

Your asking a tons of shyts you can answer yourself by exploring your machine yourself.

There is no appropriate time signature for anything, you do what you feel.
There are only the limitations you place on yourself, many gear limitations can be overcome through imagination and creation, you gotta experiment and get to know your machine in order to figure out what you can get away with on it. Only you can flex your own vision into your beats and workflow, only you.

I'm rooting for you but damn, root for yourself too. :lol:
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By YumYumRolex Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:05 pm
You are absolutely Retarded Lamp...I just got on one last night and Im trying to develop more workflow basically...I want to change up and advance my production technique....I read through the manual it makes sense but I was also reading through the forum and didnt quite understand some of the terms and whatnot, Im rooting for myself though...Just trying to better my craft.
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By Lampdog Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:14 pm
YumYumRolex wrote:Just trying to better my craft.

Aint nothing wrong with that at all, nothing at all.

Think like this, if there is something you are wondering and you have the gear sitting right in front of you then there is nothing stopping you from experimenting. Doing that will answer alot of question before you even have to take time to search them out. And press the "window" button on everything you can.
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By YumYumRolex Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:16 pm
Good Point...I mean Ive messed with the Time Signature before but I dont understand it...I know it like makes the sequence longer without extending it or something of the sort...Ive tried it, it just went over my head...
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By Lampdog Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:51 am
Maybe there is something you are very familiar with that someone here can relate to time signatures so you can grasp it better.


Hoes maybe. :lol:

Ok, so you got 96 hoes (96ppqn) that can be bashed in 1 day (1 bar). 8)

Scenario 1, your resolution (stamina) is set to 1/16, you are limited to bashing only 16 hoes in 1 day, that's it and that's all, even though there are 80 more hungrily waiting in the back of the caddy, you can see them (remaining ppqn) from your hotel window but you can't touch them :cry: .

Scenario 2, your resolution (stamina) is set to 1/32, your feeling more frisky and energetic and are now allowed to beat up 32 hoodrats in 1 day, only 32, no more even though there are 64 more wet :) , moaning and waiting their turn in the lobby. :D

Ignore the stamina settings (turn off tc) and you have definite access to ALL 96 bishes in 1 day. :wink: Now whether or not you have the timing to contend with all those bishes is up to you (reason why many turned off tc beats are "prematurely" jacked up first several "sessions"). Practice your timing while ignoring tc and eventually you'll get to a point where "it" comes easy (no explanation necessary). :idea:

TC can help when need to get brain from a head doctor at a certain time of the day (beat bar) every day.

And don't forget about step edit (strong back left pimp hand) to nudge them hags back into shape once in a while when they aint on time with the loot, er beat. :twisted:

Got that. Soak that in and let it marinate for a min or two.
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By Lampdog Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:13 pm
Aww man, I was thinking about max 96ppqn on 2kxl (I went from 2kxl to 4k).

4k is a different story, max ppqn is 480. Alot more precise with the resolution.


TC field

pg5, 4k manual.

Selects the unit for timing correction (quantization). You can choose from the following units.

1/8...........................8th note (minimum unit 480 ticks)
1/8[3] ......................8th note triplets (minimum unit 320 ticks)
1/16.........................16th note (minimum unit 240 ticks)
1/16[3] ....................16th note triplets (minimum unit 160 ticks)
1/32.........................32nd note (minimum unit 120 ticks)
1/32[3] ....................32nd note triplets (minimum unit 80 ticks)
1/64.........................64th note (minimum unit 60 ticks)
1/64[3] ....................64th note triplets (minimum unit 40 ticks)
OFF[96]..................1/96th note resolution (minimum unit 10 ticks)
OFF ........................Timing correction will not be used (minimum unit 1 tick)
By rogue scrunt Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:46 pm
the top number is the count


the bottom number tells you how to count


take a music theory class, this will be covered on the third day.

DUnCE
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By Lampdog Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:29 pm
Yum, your beats on the youtube pages (yes I suffered through a few of them) seem to be made on a rigid 1/16 resolution, loosen up and swing 53%+ and/or 1/16th(3) or 1/32(3). You need to stop sounding robotic unless that's the sound you are going for, and maybe need to stop freestyling :lol:
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By sirparksalot Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:31 pm
Like Lamp explained. This is how I use time correction/signature:

In 4/4, the time correction on the 4k is really pretty simple when you know what you're wanting.

I use it for:
-My snares
-Hi Hats where the snares hit(2+4)

You can still get that "natural feel" on the rest of the hats/kick by leaving it off, but this will make sure the core of your beat is in time, this might help you with the workflow, it does for me at least.

Now, as far as 16/3, 8/3, etc etc, here is how I look at them. I use the triplet's for a really heavy swung feel, this is really good for your samples....I don't use it much for drums, but sometimes I do. If a heavy swing is what you are wanting, try it. Like with anything, it all depends on what you are trying to accomplish with the samples and the beat. Sometimes(most of the time for me) I leave time correction off for the kick/hats.

BIG TIP THAT HELPS SAVE ME TIME:
-I will ALWAYS try to play out my samples using time correction, it's just a matter of finding the right one for the pattern you are playing. Start with 16th note correction, and if that doesn't give the right feel, move on to 32nd note correction. Sometimes it still won't feel right. This is when I will play the pattern with TC on, and then go into step edit and delete the notes that don't feel right. Then I will turn TC off and record the notes needed until it feels right to me. So you see, the majority of the samples are "in time", while the few that really make the structure feel right and maybe swing are just recorded to ear. So it's a very VERY useful combination of the time signatures(finding the right one for the accuracy you want), and then just using the ol' imagination for the rest. I hope that I helped a little bit....I'm not sure if I answered any questions, but that is how I like to use them.
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By YumYumRolex Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:46 pm
Lampdog wrote:Yum, your beats on the youtube pages (yes I suffered through a few of them) seem to be made on a rigid 1/16 resolution, loosen up and swing 53%+ and/or 1/16th(3) or 1/32(3). You need to stop sounding robotic unless that's the sound you are going for, and maybe need to stop freestyling :lol:



LMAO! I know right...DAMN! thats what Im trying to do is stop sounding so robotic...Exactly...You touched on those elements thats why Im trying to develop a better workflow...Good look tho!
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By YumYumRolex Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:48 pm
Well with the Time Signature not neccessarily Timing Correction you can change the signature within each bar likes lets say on bar 4 and 8 if I want to extend to 4/8 or whatever instead of 4/4...How do I utilize that signature...It makes the pattern sound longer or it extends it but does it keep it within the same time of 8 bars? I dont get it.
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By Lampdog Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:12 pm
Do it. Stop asking and do it in a sequence and see how it acts.
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By sirparksalot Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:31 pm
Oh.....you're asking about the ACTUAL time signature? I mean, that's basic music theory as in what different time signature's do, so in that regard, there are plenty of sources online that can tell you more information on different time signature's. Like Lamp said, as far as on the MPC and the effects, the best way is to just turn the machine on and see what you can do with different time sig's. Kind of like compression: if you study graphs and SEE the difference in hard/soft knee, you're not going to understand what it really does until you hear the difference in hard knee, attack/decay setting, treshold, etc...sorry but the best way is to just do it and find out.