dave smith / roger linn - tempest analog drum machine

jnorth wrote:It's doesn't allow sampling so I wouldn't even pay as much as the asking price. I'm with Scoobs. Rip off if you ask me.

Big mistake to not include a sampler if you ask me. Everyones grandma and dog would have wanted one if it did.

Oh well I still want one though I'll have to put it on my Christmas list

It's an analogue drum machine/groovebox... not a sampler. For certain styles it will be deadly, and not so great for others.

It's already known that Roger Linn will follow the Tempest with a dedicated sampling drum machine, which will probably appease the MPC crew more.

i'm worry i must find a rich wife to kill before christmas...

it must work fine to hook up the tempest and the mpc...

let's just hope some bluetouth midi headophones merger will be out soon...!

jnorth wrote:It's doesn't allow sampling so I wouldn't even pay as much as the asking price. I'm with Scoobs. Rip off if you ask me.

It is absurd, it is synth drum machine, not sampler. Producing analog synth is much more costly than producing digital based synth.
I don't think the profit margin is very high. I think this is hand-made product (like how Moog synths are assembled in a small factory in US.)
Other thing: Beat Thang's retail price is $1500. Now Tempest's price tag looks very reasonable...

[quote="scoobylol"] well ye datz wot da mpc is 4. /quote]

JVC wrote:

jnorth wrote:It's doesn't allow sampling so I wouldn't even pay as much as the asking price. I'm with Scoobs. Rip off if you ask me.

It is absurd, it is synth drum machine, not sampler. Producing analog synth is much more costly than producing digital based synth.
I don't think the profit margin is very high. I think this is hand-made product (like how Moog synths are assembled in a small factory in US.)
Other thing: Beat Thang's retail price is $1500. Now Tempest's price tag looks very reasonable...

It could be hand made by Roger Linn and Dave Smith with the metal from the One Ring, the plastic from a melted down Fairlight CMI and the wood from Jeff Buckley's guitar collection and it still wouldn't be worth $1500 IMO.

If any other company/collaboration had released this I swear it wouldn't get half the amount of attention. Analogue is just back in fashion at the moment and so prices reflect that.

And also in fairness Korg churn out super cheap analogue gear, while not comparible in features as of yet it still shows the relative cost, and how good pricing can be.

All IMO of course.

thanks for the vids guys
I'm glad I kept watching the DSI one... it started slow but really took off.

Got the email also...I'd love to mess around with one and possibly scoop one up if deals start coming out. Will most likely wait until Linndrumm II comes out though.

(holds breath)

scoobylol wrote:If any other company/collaboration had released this I swear it wouldn't get half the amount of attention. Analogue is just back in fashion at the moment and so prices reflect that.

I think you are right.

Being an MPC user and synth lover I could see myself using it though. A lot of the same MPC fuctions in there and much more

I'm not really up to date on the scene.. I've seen some of the Korg ones from a few years ago.

b.read wrote:Got the email also...I'd love to mess around with one and possibly scoop one up if deals start coming out. Will most likely wait until Linndrumm II comes out though.

(holds breath)

I'd get this used in a few years, maybe, but I'm also much more inclined to wait for a possible linndrumm 2.

Sorry, but why not buy the 'Arturia 'Spark' and save yourself almost $1,500 ?

It sounds a lot sweeter to my ears than the Linn machine ?

scoobylol wrote:If any other company/collaboration had released this I swear it wouldn't get half the amount of attention. Analogue is just back in fashion at the moment and so prices reflect that.

And also in fairness Korg churn out super cheap analogue gear, while not comparible in features as of yet it still shows the relative cost, and how good pricing can be.

All IMO of course.

I wasn't sure which Korg product you were referring to, but I think you are referring to Korg Monotribe and Monotron.
Korg Monotribe costs $250 in street price, and again, I wouldn't compare with Tempest just because Monotribe is analog synth.

I think it was conscious decision for Roger Linn to release analog gear, rather than sampling based machine. Roger Linn has been very inclined to make musical instruments, rather than products for sampled based music.
I see that very few people recognize engineering (software). You are not only paying for the material used on the gear, but you are also paying for cost of development.
I'd like to know the price of Linndrum II would be.

JVC wrote:I see that very few people recognize engineering (software). You are not only paying for the material used on the gear, but you are also paying for cost of development.
I'd like to know the price of Linndrum II would be.

I wonder how much development time was really needed with this though? Both camps have got the software more or less in place from other machines with some adaptation, the synth architecture was already waiting at Dave Smith.

For £1500, I still want sampling and layering.

Until then I'd rather have 8 Monotribes and 3 Monotrons haha. (joke, but a couple of each would be nice).

scoobylol wrote:...
Until then I'd rather have 8 Monotribes and 3 Monotrons haha. (joke, but a couple of each would be nice).

Let's hope the street price will go down significantly in the future. But if I have a few thousand bucks to spend for anything, then Tempest is one of the products.

Monotron and Monotribe are both nice products, Monotribe is not even affordable by me, but Monotron, I can afford (sort of.)

JVC wrote:

scoobylol wrote:...
Until then I'd rather have 8 Monotribes and 3 Monotrons haha. (joke, but a couple of each would be nice).

Let's hope the street price will go down significantly in the future. But if I have a few thousand bucks to spend for anything, then Tempest is one of the products.

i would buy the linndrum 1 before i bought that haha...

I am not into bleep blop percussion sequencing... a new age but classicly styled drum sampler (linn 2) sounds more up my alley... if I want bleeps and blops in that I can sample them.

I have a feeling the price won't go down anytime soon. Too many Fanboys.