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By face value Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:15 pm
yo....Im wondering if there is a product available that will allow me to go directly into a computer with a turntable. I want to eliminate as much as I can in the signal chain if possible. Yes, I know I need a preamp to boost the signal, but I feel that a dj mixer deteriorates the phono signal a tad. Ive searched and couldnt find a product that I could install into my DAW, that will ground the turntable and boost the signal. Does anything exist?? If so, is it a quality product, and will it create a clean result? Is there any other way to do what I am talking about that I might be overlooking? Thanks to anyone who replies.

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By saintjoe Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:17 pm
emu 1820 soundcard has a turntable input with preamp and ground lug

By cooocooo1 Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:37 pm
Stanton has some tt's with spdif outputs, you can go directly into the spdif input on a soundcard and they don't require a preamp.

By mpc3000 Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:25 am
"that will ground the turntable and boost the signal"

Isn't that a preamp?

You are going to need a preamp to bring the phono signal up to line level. The preamp is either going to be separate or stuffed inside some other component. AFAIK, both the products mentioned in this thread have preamps built in, much like crappy DJ mixers.

A separate outboard dedicated preamp will usually outperform any on-board one. Some decent ones will run $100+ and the high end ones run $500+:
http://www.audioconnect.com/html/phono_preamps.html

By lo-fi Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:18 am
If you want to do this right you have to get a good phono preamp, and a good A/D converter (soundcard). You can't eliminate these from the signal chain, but these things do come in many different qualities.

For a really good phono preamp, forget DJ mixers and check the audiophile hi-fi world. Phono preamps can cost hundreds, even thousands of dollars, but this one by NAD is known to have a very good price-performance ratio. It's about $250,- or something.

As for A/D converters, get the best 24 bit soundcard you can afford, record at 24bit and use good dithering software to bring it down to 16 bit if you want to put it on CD.

Don't forget the first thing in the signal chain has to be a REALLY good stylus/cartridge, and that there are better sounding TTs out there than the SL1200...

(these tips are for getting the best possible audio quality into your computer. Myself I just record everything into Peak at 16bit using my standard DJ setup of Shure M-447 > SL1200mkII > Ecler HAK 320 > balanced cables > Motu828mkII... Sounds good enough for me.)[/url]
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By dj e.d.e Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:36 pm
here's my tipand it's also what i use, i use my standard deejay setup two or three turntables a stanton sk-2 dj mixer with an EQ. then i run it thro a good quality direct box and connected to a 1/8 plug converter and in to my sound card line in, and you can clean the sound with your software if you need to , it sounds great to my ears, but i've used my ears up in the last 20- 24 years actually there pretty well tuned some times i can tell a difference in sound by the slightest.
good luck