Perfect Pitch

Thinking the next step in my beat making stage is the get the whole pitch thing down instead of relying on the Mrs.

How did you guys train yourself? Any programs or exercises you found useful?

bump! I have trouble mixing samples from different songs, getting the tempo right is always easy, and chopping the right amount of bars isnt to difficult.. but i find when i try to combine them they always sound out of tune

since you can already spot that things are out of tune, then your ears isnt the problem, it can simply be your choice of samples, if you cant tell right away if something will fit then you could always let the track taste the sample before you even think about sampling it because knowing how to pitch alone isnt going to save a sound and make it fit with anything you want afaik. A program like melodyne might be useful here though..

jmac01 wrote:bump! I have trouble mixing samples from different songs, getting the tempo right is always easy, and chopping the right amount of bars isnt to difficult.. but i find when i try to combine them they always sound out of tune

Auto-Tune will straighten that right the **** out.

perfect pitch is almost impossible to achieve inless you were born w it. you can learn it im sure but its hard as hell. relative pitch is more realistic

My ear is almost top notch when it comes to discerning pitch. I've played piano/bass and DJ'ed for years though, it helps.

Like was mentioned in a previous post, perfect pitch is a somewhat innate ability. However, I know of some people (myself included) that have trained their relative pitch to the point where melodies can be transcribed on the second or third, sometimes even on the first listening.

How did you guys train yourself? Any programs or exercises you found useful?

Learn an instrument. Piano/ Keyboard is perfect for this stuff. For the best result, find a private music teacher that is willing to work with you on what you want to learn. And as far as programs or exercises, go with what your teacher suggests.

If hiring a teacher isn't possible, all I can say is that I've studied out of numerous books and they're all basically the same. It really comes down to what instrument you play and what text your teacher likes the most. For computer programs, look up the keywords "ear training" or "aural training". Good Luck

Ill-Green wrote:Auto-Tune will straighten that right the **** out.

for sure made me laugh. Everyone does it that way now i rekon.
I have good ear for pitch, and found music theory is a great help as well, though can be more confusing to. If your samples pitch seems not to match then they are out of tune, so you need find the root note of each to know where to shift the pitch to right.
GUITAR TUNER is cheap and easy to use. get root note and play it to tuner, hey presto you have the root note pitch. This might not be the samples original pitch if it has been slowed or sped up but gives you a basic note and there fore gives you the key of the song. Its more complicated with chords but just try and get the root not and this usually denotes key and scale. After you have the key of what the song is in then you can figure out what relative minor is and also what notes dont match. Obviously the MPC can shift samples pitch cents at a time so dont assume the sample is in any particular pitch anyways.
Whistle while you work. Hum sing or go aaahhhhh.... in tune of wht your playing and after a long time you might recognise the whole do re mi and then you will be able to just know what note it is

wise words from our supreme moderator

Lampdog wrote:I didn't even chose that title if your trying to downplay that one buddy.
And I was actually joking, but then you can't see my actual reaction while I was typing it could you. I even put a laugh smiley at the end. Yet you still got something to say. Move along dude.

Ditto you didnt see my reaction either......You got me all wrong, i was agreeing wholeheartedly. I like your title, and only noticed it lately, so was just giving respect not trying to downplay anything. Lost in translation maybe lampdog.
peace

all good. much love Lampdog I was laughing so hard and can relate to that experience alot. In the local pub, some one would just say - you, me. outside.'- means lets get ready to rumble
it was a bit like that.
But back to topic. I did find humming, singing badly ect help me recognise pitch. But, it does take alot of practice unless your born with perfect pitch. A friend of mine has it, and can just tell me the chord, or note. Makes me mad, but now I can kinda do it myself now. Nothing beats practice and percervierence, as out supreme moderator said. Sorry Lampdog I cant help it now....Can I call you Our Supreme Moderator from now on, cos you are? i think its a great title