Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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By mr_debauch Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:34 am
^ hellfire, I am guessing you have four 2 gig sticks... or is it two 4 gig sticks?

cause 85 bucks seems not bad at all.. ddr3 is pretty cheap though compared to previous generations...
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By DJ Hellfire Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:54 am
mr_debauch wrote:^ hellfire, I am guessing you have four 2 gig sticks... or is it two 4 gig sticks?

cause 85 bucks seems not bad at all.. ddr3 is pretty cheap though compared to previous generations...


Yeah, it's 4 4GB sticks, and at 1333MHz, which is pretty quick! But I overclocked the processor, so I had to underclock the ram a bit to get it to run stabile. I have the ram running at about 1266MHz.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231442
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By mr_debauch Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:00 am
I am going to keep that website in mind for when I get around to building this computer I have been meaning to put together.. I am not sure if they will deliver here or what the duty will be etc.. (that will be researched later) but you would spit if you saw what our local computer parts vending chain's prices are..

hey, do you guys think akai jumped on to usb3 yet for the mpcr, or do you think they are still in the usb 1 days?
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By DJ Hellfire Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:04 am
mr_debauch wrote:I am going to keep that website in mind for when I get around to building this computer I have been meaning to put together.. I am not sure if they will deliver here or what the duty will be etc.. (that will be researched later) but you would spit if you saw what our local computer parts vending chain's prices are..

hey, do you guys think akai jumped on to usb3 yet for the mpcr, or do you think they are still in the usb 1 days?


This place is in NJ, about 20 minutes from my house, at least one of their shipping warehouses is. So I always get my shit quick as long as it's in stock, which it mostly is. Don't know if they'll ship to you though!

I would guess that since the MPCR is just basically sending midi data, that they went with USB 2!
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By JAH Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:07 am
I don't see many companies of music production gear using USB 3 yet.
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By JAH Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:34 am
I've been thinking about buying a USB sound card. RME Fireface UC (claim 48 samples of latency) or the MOTU 896mk3 Hybrid. The MOUT unit is several hundred dollars cheaper and gives you more connectivity. RME are famous for the low latency drivers and I have used the HDSP9652 and loved its stability and performance......
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By Coz Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:35 am
DJ Hellfire wrote:I planned on buying a new Mac pro in march or April. But after thinking about it, im not sure I want too. Like I said above, I already have a quad core beast I built that I'm running at 3.4GHz reliably. So I kinda feel like dropping $3000-4000 on another computer is not needed as much as I want a nice 8 core Mac.



Just be aware if you do change your mind that the Mac Pro has not had a significant upgrade in a long time. There's even talk of it being discontinued but I can't see that happening. One other rumour suggests a more major redesign with the ability to have it as a rack or tower, with the forthcoming Ivy Bridge processors coming in 4 and 8 core versions to give it the horse power.
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By DJ Hellfire Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:44 pm
coolderb wrote:Latency doesn't seem to be affecting this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6njNQyzoM


Yeah! Rafik is a BEAST! Even on the turntable! Due is ill!

This guy also has never complianed about Maschine latency:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQuzYO4hp3A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcJCxe1VSLA
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By JAH Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:38 pm
Retrofreak wrote:
coolderb wrote:Latency doesn't seem to be affecting this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6njNQyzoM


Very nice, but add vst plugins and tracks to this and lets see what happens?.

Probably the same thing that would happen with any other leading DAW is my guess.
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By DJ Hellfire Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:45 pm
JAH wrote:
Retrofreak wrote:
coolderb wrote:Latency doesn't seem to be affecting this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD6njNQyzoM


Very nice, but add vst plugins and tracks to this and lets see what happens?.

Probably the same thing that would happen with any other leading DAW is my guess.



I'll say this AGAIN! I personally have several RTAS and VST VI plugins and none of them induce ANY latency into my sessions. All report back 0 samples of delay. Not talking about effects plugins, but virtual instrument plugins. And I have of course all the stock Avid VI's, Trilogy, SampleTank, Philharmonik, Reason, Absynth, Garritan, Atmosphere, Kontakt, to name a few! None cause delay. Infact, I don't see how they would even make any VI plugins that would cause delay. Even with Delay Compensation, you still couldn't play through them, since only all the other tracks are being delayed to line up with the already delayed VI. Doesn't seem to make sense that a plugin manufacturer would sell a professional plugin that you can't even play, unless it was designed for a TDM based system (which aren't affected by plugin latency), which I'm sure most of us here are not using!

And an additional response to Retrofreak, MPC's can't even load VST's, so that really shouldn't even be in the equation. Internal brain to internal brain, MPC's and Maschine have virtually the exact same response time, as far as what most humans can even detect, provided your Maschine audio settings are correct. Like I said, mine is pulling only 4.5ms of latency and feels nowhere near less responsive than any of the 3 MPC's I've owned!
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By coolderb Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:52 pm
I'm not disputing your statement. The same probably holds true for music 'hardware'. Certain functions require more CPU cycles. The key is to balance, tweak and work around those limitations. We are fortunate to be living in an age of relatively inexpensive yet powerful processing power, massive memory and storage. I still have a VHS video from the early 80's that featured Herbie Hancock & Chick Corea using early Mac computers for audio and MIDI processing. The software was very crude compared to what we have today, but at the time it was mind blowing. lol

I found it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPXnZ9j_RE