Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By JUKE 179r Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:29 am
It's supposed to be the next Ableton Live clone program also from Berlin...

http://bitwig.com/bitwig_studio.php

http://www.youtube.com/v/7V_t8GfH-v4&autoplay=1&autohide=1

If it's cheaper than Live and integrates well with other MIDI instruments (auto map), I'll be interested in it.

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By MeSoHordey Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:57 am
I heard about this....from former Ableton employees. Wow. I didn't realize it looks so similar. If you put the browser on the left hand side, it looks like an Ableton clone. Wonder if they are all worried about lawsuits.
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By damien907 Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:58 am
looks pretty neat, the second picture it looks like theres a linear type arrange page? doesnt abelton live lack this? have only used the demo for a short time.
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By nod records Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:57 am
it def looks interesting. we'll see how thing pan out for them...

"four members of the Bitwig Team are ex-Ableton employees"

peep the whole article here:
http://www.djtechtools.com/2012/01/12/b ... mpetition/

Bitwig Team and What Competition Means
According to the Ableton forums, four members of the Bitwig Team are ex-Ableton employees, meaning that this release won’t be something to be taken lightly. We’re not entirely sure of the background here and what their current relationship is, but it’s certain to be an interesting story.

It’s also worth noting that Ableton prices don’t seem to be currently dictated by price accessibility or to compete with other industry alternatives, so a competitor like Bitwig Studio that’s bound to put a lower price on their software will only help breed innovation in the Ableton camp. That being said, everyone’s expecting something big from Ableton at NAMM – stay tuned next week as our coverage goes into full swing starting Wednesday!

Updated: One of our writers and friends, Hedgehog, called Bitwig this morning and got a chance to get a few more details from them.



He got a chance to speak with Bitwig CEO Placidus Schelbert for a couple of minutes – thanks for talking with us, Placidus!

When asked about their relationship with Ableton, he said that they (Bitwig) admire Ableton a lot, and want rebuild some good parts of it and extend upon them. Live is a big chunk of software nowadays, and Bitwig wants to create a more focused experience and added features they consider important. They’ve been working on Bitwig Studio for two and a half years already, having invested their own money and being partially backed by a Berlin-based investment bank.

When asked asked if they’re concerned about legal issues arising with Ableton, Placidus assured us that the Bitwig Studio team wrote all the code themselves and that they don’t think they’ll be sued- but he was careful to note that he couldn’t tell for sure that it won’t happen.

Hedgehog also asked about the promised feature of working together via LAN or internet, and learned that while on LAN you all use the same audio-output, collaborating on internet every user will have his own audio settings. That means while your friend has one channel muted you can have totally different settings. Seems like a great way to not have to be emailing project files back and forth, though!

As of right now, there’s no firm release date, but Beta testing will begin in a few weeks. Try as he might, Hedgehog wasn’t able to get any information regarding the price (not even hints!).
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By scoobylol Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:58 pm
Working over the internet sounds insane! The unique settings for each user is also a fantastic idea, although I'd like to know how that works for recording audio tracks or FX for example.

You can imagine the future law-suits already. DJ Badman and MC Egoflex, taking each other to court over who did what in a Bitwig Studio session haha.

I hope Ableton let this project continue for a time. I imagine things would get more serious if these guys got as big a dedicated following as Live. I'm just surprised they didn't try to include these new ideas into their program already. Sounds odd! But I'm definitely intrigued by this wee beasty.
By SuperKonquer Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:49 pm
Man I can not wait for this, I love live but there is so many thing that are noticeably missing. If this does everything it says it does I'll never use another daw again...
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By JUKE 179r Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:10 am
Another Bitwig teaser video...

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By Metatron72 Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:19 am
If Ableton were to pursue legal action I think it would be based more on sour grapes than a legitimate contention. The timing of those Bitwig guys leaving was the exact point Ableton said they were putting Live 9's development on hold to concentrate on bugfixes. That was well over 2 years ago.

I'm pretty convinced that the Bitwig guys were the ones Ableton were relying on to recompile if not totally rewrite Live 9 from the ground up to fully 64bit.

I bet Live 9 news magically appears when Bitwig drops. If Bitwig can prove itself to more stable than Live I'm going to likely switch. I'm more than sick of Live forcing me to leave 21.5GB of RAM unused.